ccw at Va hospitalThis is a discussion on ccw at Va hospital within the CCW forums, part of the Firearm Forum category; Most if not all Hospitals have no firearms policy. Leave your gun in the car or truck or at home! Guns make nurses nervous!...
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October 25th, 2012, 01:32 PM
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Most if not all Hospitals have no firearms policy. Leave your gun in the car or truck or at home! Guns make nurses nervous!
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October 25th, 2012, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by jrcorvette  Most if not all Hospitals have no firearms policy. Leave your gun in the car or truck or at home! Guns make nurses nervous! | Agreed! But that is not the point of this thread. It is the VA hospitals not allowing them in the parking lots, locked in cars. No other Federal installation, except military, that I'm aware of, bans guns in parking lots in locked in cars. There may be some, but not Post Offices, Federal buildings or others that we would normally visit as citizens, ban guns in cars parked in their parking lots. VA Hospitals can be quite a distance from one's home. In my case it is about a 200 mile drive (round trip) to visit the nearest VA Hospital. I've been there twice in the past 6 months. Once for a 5 minute exam and the other for an eye exam. If I carry a gun in my vehicle for protection during that drive, I can't enter the VA grounds legally (and the nearest off grounds parking is a mile away). There isn't a guard at the gate, so it is just a problem if you get caught. A victimless crime, to be sure.
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October 25th, 2012, 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Jack D Agreed! But that is not the point of this thread. It is the VA hospitals not allowing them in the parking lots, locked in cars. No other Federal installation, except military, that I'm aware of, bans guns in parking lots in locked in cars. There may be some, but not Post Offices, Federal buildings or others that we would normally visit as citizens, ban guns in cars parked in their parking lots. VA Hospitals can be quite a distance from one's home. In my case it is about a 200 mile drive (round trip) to visit the nearest VA Hospital. I've been there twice in the past 6 months. Once for a 5 minute exam and the other for an eye exam. If I carry a gun in my vehicle for protection during that drive, I can't enter the VA grounds legally (and the nearest off grounds parking is a mile away). There isn't a guard at the gate, so it is just a problem if you get caught. A victimless crime, to be sure. | The VA hospital has the right to search you and your car anytime they want when you are on VA lands .[ Big time fines ] . The same thing on military bases too . Watch out carrying on Indian reservation , some federal and state parks are bad news also . I've carried since 1968 in Pa , Ca , Az , Tn and Tx and seen a lot of changes good and bad ..
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October 25th, 2012, 04:52 PM
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#19 | | Larry the Conservative
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Originally Posted by Tx gunrunner The VA hospital and land is off limits to guns and DO NOT park your car in VA parking lot with load or unload gun in car . They will keep your gun and fine you too boot and just the ammo will cost you $125 per round and they don't care if you are in a wheelchair and you have a CCW and drove over 100 miles to get there .  . | That fine for ammo is not a thing I've seen or heard of before. There's always a stray round or two in my truck, and certainly several brass cases. Do you have any links to that reg?
I see the sign that says all guns are banned at the VA hospital I go to, but there's nothing about ammo on it. I'm there once or twice a month and will be going back on Monday, so I'll read it closely this time.
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October 25th, 2012, 04:57 PM
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James6591, no sense of humor?
You can still do bad jokes and take the secone admendment seriously.
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October 25th, 2012, 05:10 PM
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#21 | | P95 Shooter
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Originally Posted by gasbag There are, believe it or not, some places on this planet where guns are not appropriate. Hospitals are one of them. | Nurses should be armed at all times, and not just with needles.
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October 25th, 2012, 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by gasbag There are, believe it or not, some places on this planet where guns are not appropriate. Hospitals are one of them. | Your message didn't seem to resonate very well with the hospital shooters in Akron, OH, Sycamore, IL, Orlando FL, Knoxville, TN, Baltimore, MD, and Chicago, IL and any others that I'm not aware of.
Last edited by ChrisLCR; October 25th, 2012 at 07:46 PM.
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October 25th, 2012, 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by jrcorvette Most if not all Hospitals have no firearms policy. Leave your gun in the car or truck or at home! Guns make nurses nervous! | Guns make a lot of people nervous. What makes nurses so special?
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October 25th, 2012, 06:12 PM
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#24 | | Larry the Conservative
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Nurses have made me nervous for the past 28 years. All they have ever had to do was to hold up a catheter and I became a model patient.
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October 25th, 2012, 06:25 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Leonard, Tx
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Originally Posted by Jack D
What happens if you're carrying concealed and you're involved in an accident and transported to a hospital. Do ambulance drivers search everyone for concealed weapons? I was taken to a hospital in an ambulance and was not searched. I was not carrying, but they didn't know if I was or not.
| In my case I was conscious enough to tell a responding police officer and he secured my firearm til my wife arrived. He then gave it to her and told her to secure it. A good deputy Sheriff. Wasn't a big deal to him.
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October 26th, 2012, 09:17 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Gainesville, Virginia USA
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I've been subject to "random" car searches at Federal facilities. They don't need probable cause for that.
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October 26th, 2012, 09:55 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Ft Hood Tx
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Originally Posted by stargeezer That fine for ammo is not a thing I've seen or heard of before. There's always a stray round or two in my truck, and certainly several brass cases. Do you have any links to that reg?
I see the sign that says all guns are banned at the VA hospital I go to, but there's nothing about ammo on it. I'm there once or twice a month and will be going back on Monday, so I'll read it closely this time. | Call the VA hospital police in Nashville and ask them . Remenber they have the right to do random seach to anyone as a person and or your car or truck . I quit parking on VA parking lot after they nailed my buddy . Remember it is a big deal since 9/11 . So Go for it  | |
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October 26th, 2012, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Jack D I visit the VA hospital and clinics for tests a couple of times/year. At the entrance gate is a large sign saying guns (weapons) are not allowed beyond the gate. Just having a gun in my vehicle is not allowed. I don't like to travel without my gun and the clinic/hospital is just under 100 miles from home. This is a dilema for me and others in this situation. | A couple of opportunities here.
1. I see this as an area that needs a law or policy change, where should a campaign to change this begin? With the VA, or with local Reps and Senators?
We all know it is ridiculous that veterans should not be trusted, once in a while one goes "over the top" but 99.8% are more level headed than the average citizen when it comes to gun control. 
2. A nearby gun shop or range needs to add some lockers.
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