Ruger Forum

jlh820 · September 7th, 2012, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by arg0naut22

thanks, all, for all the responses. great thoughts here (and to be truthful, i'm still reading them. about halfway through or so). just to clarify, as there have been a couple of "crossover" comments, i do have a 9mm (P95) for home defense with hornady critical defense rounds in my HD mag, but i'm thinking entirely separately as far as ccw. i know others have mentioned carrying the P95 but i think it's too big to work comfortably for me in terms of concealment and weight. thinking more between the sr22 or the lc9. specific thoughts between those two? or (dare i say it?) branching out from ruger for something in the same price range of equal or higher quality???

I would urge you to check out the Sig P238. They aren't as hard to find now as when I bought mine. It's a very small 1911 style semi auto that holds 7+1 or 8+1. Since it has a thumb safety, it's perfectly safe to carry it cocked and locked. It comes with some outstanding tritium night sights and Sig makes high quality firearms. It's a SAO, which is part of the reason for it's exceptional trigger. It has very little recoil and the slide is the easiest to rack I know of. Many women like this gun because it's so easy to use.

See if you can find one you can try before you buy. Research it on the Internet and YouTube. I've never seen a negative review of it. Expect to pay around $600 for it. Sigs demand a higher price because of their legendary quality and performance. But it's more than worth the few extra dollars it costs.

It might not be for you, but better to find out now than later and say, I could've had a P238!

Smithy · September 7th, 2012, 11:44 PM

I have three guns for carry, the smallest being a NAA mini in 22 magnum with their holster grip but not the belt clip. I use the holster grip so I have a collapsible larger grip to be a little bit easier to hit my target. It's kept in a soft cloth, inside the pocket holster with grip folded. Next is a S&W J frame in 357, 2" barrel and Mag-Na-Ported. I only shoot 38's out of it since my wife's J frame Lady Smith is 38 only and don't want to confuse the ammo. CT laser grips are on this one which is also carried in an inside the pocket holster. The biggest is a 44 magnum Ruger Alaskan, also ported and CT gripped and it's carried in a shoulder holster.

In a nutshell I never have an excuse not to have a gun. Winter months, going through a less than nice town (I have to for various doctor appointments) and the Alaskan is the gun of choice. For the most part my go to carry gun is the J Frame. It and its holster fit the front pocket very handley. Then in the hot summer months with light clothing, nothing beats the 22 mag. I feel comfortable and well protected with any of my choices. Smithy.

oklahomamoses · September 8th, 2012, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by LimaCharlie

I personally don't trust any handgun, barrel length, and ammo combination with less than 400 ft-lbs of muzzle energy for protection, so no I would not trust even a .22 mag. Using a .22 for protection is better than throwing a rock at the assailant.Yes, a .22 has killed a lot of people and large animals with a very close quarters very well placed shot or a very lucky shot. Making a very well placed shot under duress with the adrenalin flowing with a small .22 handgun comes under the heading of a very lucky shot. How lucky do you feel?

No, I won't volunteer to let you shoot me with a .22. I also won't volunteer to let a seven year old girl throw rocks at me.

Missing with any handgun rarely stops an assault. Hitting an assailant once often doesn't stop the assault. A perfect shot with a .22 may stop the assault. A chances of hit anywhere on the assailant's body stopping the assault increases with the size and speed of the round.

Why people should proof read and wait at leasy 10 min before hitting the post button, Sir, are you series?

jlh820 · September 8th, 2012, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by oklahomamoses

Why people should proof read and wait at leasy 10 min before hitting the post button, Sir, are you series?

Yes, I believe he's "series".

You should have proof read your post and waited at "leasy" 10 minute before posting.

m1aman · September 8th, 2012, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by jlh820

Yes, I believe he's "series".

You should have proof read your post and waited at "leasy" 10 minute before posting.

That is some funny sheet.

jlh820 · September 8th, 2012, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Smithy

I have three guns for carry, the smallest being a NAA mini in 22 magnum with their holster grip...

Those little NAA .22 mini mags look kind of cool. And if you fired one, people would probably be wondering, "Where'd that come from?!?".

I've looked at them on their site. Do you consider it a "safe" gun to carry? How is the recoil and is the grip usuable?

I wouldn't mind seeing a thread started on it or a review.

Smithy · September 8th, 2012, 05:08 PM

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Do you consider it a "safe" gun to carry? How is the recoil and is the grip usuable?

I wouldn't mind seeing a thread started on it or a review.

The holster grip makes all the difference in the world. Smithy.

jlh820 · September 8th, 2012, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Smithy

The holster grip makes all the difference in the world. Smithy.

Thanks. I'll have to do some more research on them. As a kid, my favorite TV show was Wild, Wild West. I loved that little derringer he carried. This reminds me of it. My grandma had a little 4 shot derringer she carried in her purse. It shot all 4 rounds at once. I wish I could have kept that gun, but I don't know whatever happened to it.

Sorry to the OP for being off topic.

Smithy · September 8th, 2012, 05:30 PM

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This reminds me of it. My grandma had a little 4 shot derringer she carried in her purse.

My gun collections/interests have always gone in cycles. I'd be in black powder for awhile and that is all that I'd have in the safe, black powder guns. Then it'd be 22's, then shotguns, then 44 magnums. I once was in the 45/70 mode and had just about every configuration of 45/70 you can get including revolvers and a two shot derringer. Well in one of my 22LR rotations I had an all stainless, modern made (can't remember the manufacturer now) Sharps copy of the 22LR four shot derringer (like you, I wish I still had that gun). It had a revolving striker to fire one at a time, but if you pulled out just one part it would fire all four at once. Smithy.

staff3704 · September 8th, 2012, 05:34 PM

22 mag at the very least and it would not be my first choice.

DLBConductor · September 8th, 2012, 08:24 PM

At the age of 69, I 24/7 carry either a Springfield XDS (.45ACP) or a Springfield XD9SC (9mm Luger) as my EDC with a CHL.

When I get home for the evening, I tend to use a Ruger SR1911 (.45ACP) for home defense with the Springfields as backup.

I reserve the use of my Ruger Mark III Target pistol (.22LR) for fun at the range.

The interesting thing is, that from a defensive encounter distance, I am equally effective with any of the four handguns. I simply feel better with either a .45ACP or 9mm Luger round for self-defense and, age not withstanding, I don't find the recoil from a .45 to be problematic from either the XDS or the SR1911.

From any distance, the Ruger SR1911 is my most accurate gun and if I didn't have arthritis in my hands, I would carry it 24/7. However, in my case, its weight and size make it less than ideal as my concealed carry weapon. (Sigh!)

The Ruger SR1911 is definitely my favorite weapon. I love the extreme accuracy, craftsmanship, and build of the SR1911. Sometimes I feel like a kid at Christmas and will leave the case open just to admire its beauty.

kttemplar · September 12th, 2012, 08:10 AM

After spending some time with my new SR22P, I feel comfortable with it as a CCW...

officer1969 · September 12th, 2012, 10:48 PM

i'm a retired police officer and i'd just like to say i know for a fact a .22 is great for concealed carry they are fast cheap ammo and will kill. there was a famous case in ohio not sure if you heard about it,it happened bad in the 70's the .22 caliber killers and let me just say they killed alot of ppl look it up. i would say in my opinion a .22 is a great ccw weapon and no recoil smaller shaper and penitrate faster do way more internal damage. were as a 9mm,45,357,44 have much more recoil and it makes it harder to shoot in a fast life threating situation. when the adrenaline gets pumping you definatly want a gun you can handle.but thats just my experiance for being a police officer and being in those kind of situations.

Smithy · September 12th, 2012, 11:03 PM

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i'm a retired police officer and i'd just like to say i know for a fact a .22 is great for concealed carry they are fast cheap ammo and will kill. there was a famous case in ohio not sure if you heard about it,it happened bad in the 70's the .22 caliber killers and let me just say they killed alot of ppl look it up. i would say in my opinion a .22 is a great ccw weapon and no recoil smaller shaper and penitrate faster do way more internal damage. were as a 9mm,45,357,44 have much more recoil and it makes it harder to shoot in a fast life threating situation. when the adrenaline gets pumping you definatly want a gun you can handle.but thats just my experiance for being a police officer and being in those kind of situations.

Did you carry one as a second or third back up gun when you were on the force, or do you just now use it for CCW? I've heard of some officers who tuck a NAA revolver in the collar of their Eisenhower jacket. Smithy.

ZommyGun · September 13th, 2012, 09:13 AM

IMO it is less about ballistics and more about reliability...with the tie breaker going to being comfortable carrying and shooting...

I'd rather have a box cutter than a handgun that has a fail to feed bullet wedged in it...happened to me yesterday at the range with my 10/22...

Also think rimfire ammo combined with small bore combined with auto-loader is not my idea of a reliable self defense weapon...

Think about it some... no one is going to stand still and get shot unless you are sniping them... in a fight with moving targets that are either beating you with something or have a gun themselves...how good do you have to be with that 22 to get a well placed shot... you better be really good... really fast... and the gun better work...

When you look it at things that way...sorry I know this is a Ruger forum but the answer for me is get a Glock 19 and practice with it...

I have other guns I LIKE better would prefer to carry and or shoot for various reasons but none would I rather have in my hand in a close quarters combat situation...all things considered including ballistics...it's the ultimate compromise IMO...

I do not trust 22 rimfire autos enough to rely on for defense...last resort...of course...and if the 22 is the heaviest gun you are willing to tote around then definitely get one...