Interesting Carry Story Developing in IllinoisThis is a discussion on Interesting Carry Story Developing in Illinois within the CCW forums, part of the Firearm Forum category; Mclean County (central Illinois) state attorney will no longer prosecute otherwise law abiding citizens who are breaking the current Illinois law by carrying firearms.
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August 25th, 2012, 01:11 PM
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| Interesting Carry Story Developing in Illinois
Mclean County (central Illinois) state attorney will no longer prosecute otherwise law abiding citizens who are breaking the current Illinois law by carrying firearms. Quote:
The McLean County state’s attorney said he will no longer press charges against people who violate Illinois gun laws that he considers unconstitutional.
Ronald Dozier’s decision appears to mean that people can carry guns in the central Illinois county so long as they are peaceful and don’t threaten anyone. “Our message is this: We will no longer use the power and authority of our office to criminalize and punish decent, otherwise law-abiding citizens who choose to exercise the rights granted to them by the Second Amendment of the United States’ Constitution to keep and bear arms in defense of themselves and their families,” Dozier said in a four-page statement explaining his decision ... see link below for complete story | It will be interesting to see what (if anything) the state AG and the Holder justice department will have to say about this. http://www.sj-r.com/breaking/x178233...im-at-gun-laws
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August 25th, 2012, 01:36 PM
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Glad to hear that someone in that state has some sence.
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August 25th, 2012, 04:03 PM
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Glad to hear that someone in that state has some sence.
| While I agree with Dozier's that this law is a violation of the 2nd amendment, being a big believer in the rule of law, if I was unfortunate enough to live in McLean county, I wouldn't be carrying as the county sheriff indicates that he fully intends to uphold the current law (arresting law breakers) which from my perspective is the right thing for him to do until the law is changed (and it should be changed sooner as opposed to later). How can one complain that the current administration is circumventing laws that it doesn't like (immigration laws, fast and furious, etc.) and then stand behind a state attorney who is doing exactly the same thing?
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August 25th, 2012, 04:12 PM
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This is a real breakthrough lets see what happens the first time someone defends themself.
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August 25th, 2012, 04:32 PM
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"It will be interesting to see what (if anything) the state AG and the Holder justice department will have to say about this "
The name "Holder" and the word "Justice" used together in the same sentence is an oxymoron.
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August 25th, 2012, 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by jaxrider14  "It will be interesting to see what (if anything) the state AG and the Holder justice department will have to say about this "
The name "Holder" and the word "Justice" used together in the same sentence is an oxymoron. | Well, we know that one of them is a MORON. And it's not justice.
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August 25th, 2012, 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Ladrlp This is a real breakthrough lets see what happens the first time someone defends themself. | Just claim executive privilege  | |
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August 25th, 2012, 07:57 PM
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The problem is, it is still against the law. If you carry there, you are breaking the law, and can be subject to prosecution. Just because the current state attorney has decided not to prosecute doesn't really mean much. Not sure I want to be the guinea pig for someone further up the food chain who might want to make a name for them-self.
A change in the law is needed.
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August 25th, 2012, 10:35 PM
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Seems a step in the right direction.
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August 26th, 2012, 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by BuckJM53 While I agree with Dozier's that this law is a violation of the 2nd amendment, being a big believer in the rule of law, if I was unfortunate enough to live in McLean county, I wouldn't be carrying as the county sheriff indicates that he fully intends to uphold the current law (arresting law breakers) which from my perspective is the right thing for him to do until the law is changed (and it should be changed sooner as opposed to later). How can one complain that the current administration is circumventing laws that it doesn't like (immigration laws, fast and furious, etc.) and then stand behind a state attorney who is doing exactly the same thing? | I'm with you on that. Change the law don't ignore it. But then what about laws that haven't been inforced for decades? What do we do about them?
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August 26th, 2012, 05:03 PM
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It is interesting that when the top law people abuse their power the middle level inject reason.
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August 27th, 2012, 10:10 AM
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The law is`not going to change any time soon. It can change yet this year if Home rule units are allowed to opt out. The NRA has stopped passage of concealed carry for many years because of this.
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August 27th, 2012, 11:46 AM
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This reminds me of a sherrif that would not evict people from there homes that had been making payments on their houses a few years ago during the beginning of the housing crisis. Didn't he get fired though for not upholding the law?
Glad to see this stance taken more often, an am curious what the repurcussions are for Mr. Dozier.
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August 27th, 2012, 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Clovishound The problem is, it is still against the law. If you carry there, you are breaking the law, and can be subject to prosecution. Just because the current state attorney has decided not to prosecute doesn't really mean much. Not sure I want to be the guinea pig for someone further up the food chain who might want to make a name for them-self.
A change in the law is needed. | +1 to what Clovishound said!
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August 27th, 2012, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by hotpig The law is`not going to change any time soon. It can change yet this year if Home rule units are allowed to opt out. The NRA has stopped passage of concealed carry for many years because of this. |
Explain please  I am not up on this.
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