Pocket Carry QuestionThis is a discussion on Pocket Carry Question within the CCW forums, part of the Firearm Forum category; If you carry in a pocket holster, I don't see how a revolver can accidentally discharge. Even without a holster, the only way it can ...  |
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August 21st, 2012, 11:46 PM
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If you carry in a pocket holster, I don't see how a revolver can accidentally discharge. Even without a holster, the only way it can go boom is if you reach in and pull the trigger, which, with the length of trigger pull on these DAO's, is highly unlikely.
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August 22nd, 2012, 04:48 AM
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Here's a test. Next time you sit across from someone at diner, tell them what you have in your pocket and where it's pointed. Tell them it's perfectly safe. See what they say.
I for one would be happy you told me and I would promptly move.
Also, the OP put his hand in his pocket to adjust the direction of the firearm. Yes in a holster, but one step closer to something happening. Keep the hand out of the pocket if you pocket carry. Stupid things happen all the time. Planning ahead for a worst case scenario is the best option IMO.
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August 22nd, 2012, 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by BearcatShack Here's a test. Next time you sit across from someone at diner, tell them what you have in your pocket and where it's pointed. Tell them it's perfectly safe. See what they say.
I for one would be happy you told me and I would promptly move.
Also, the OP put his hand in his pocket to adjust the direction of the firearm. Yes in a holster, but one step closer to something happening. Keep the hand out of the pocket if you pocket carry. Stupid things happen all the time. Planning ahead for a worst case scenario is the best option IMO. | Doesn't that defeat the purpose of "concealed" carry. In fact, if someone told me they had a gun and it was pointed at me, I might consider it a threat. Why conceal it if your going to tell.
Some are afraid of a gun even if it's just sitting on a table. Some would leave the restaurant, knowing someone had a gun in the restaurant. It's a phobia!
The LCR has an 8+ pound trigger pull. It's not going off unless someone intentionally pulls that trigger. Guns do not have muscles or minds. They cannot go off by themselves. A DAO gun in a pocket or holster is as inert a a rock laying on flat ground. It isn't moving until something moves it.
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August 22nd, 2012, 08:39 AM
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People have been pocket carrying since pistols were made small enough to do so.........so, for over 200 years or so  It hasn't been until fairly recently in firearms history that all these handy, high tech pocket holsters came out (and of course, some states require a holster)
I only pocket carry a few of my guns, but there is NO way any of these guns could ever discharge. My S&W Model 60 has about a 30 lb. DA pull and it's hard to set off on purpose, let alone ND it |
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August 22nd, 2012, 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Jack D Doesn't that defeat the purpose of "concealed" carry. In fact, if someone told me they had a gun and it was pointed at me, I might consider it a threat. Why conceal it if your going to tell.
Some are afraid of a gun even if it's just sitting on a table. Some would leave the restaurant, knowing someone had a gun in the restaurant. It's a phobia!
The LCR has an 8+ pound trigger pull. It's not going off unless someone intentionally pulls that trigger. Guns do not have muscles or minds. They cannot go off by themselves. A DAO gun in a pocket or holster is as inert a a rock laying on flat ground. It isn't moving until something moves it. | I think I made my point. People prefer not to have a loaded firearm pointed at them and if they knew about it they would be less that happy. And while I agree it may be perfectly safe in a holster in your pocket, people have hands and those hands end up in pockets for whatever reason (like the OP stated he did) and now you've introduced risk.
So, if all that comes from this post is that people give it some thought and are more careful because of it, then good.
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August 22nd, 2012, 10:44 PM
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#36 | | Conserviberalitarian
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I personally don't care for pocket holsters and don't believe one should be carried in a pocket without one. If the holster fits the gun, it's not going to fire. In fact, unload it and see if you can get your gun to fire when it's in the pocket holster. I'm betting you can't.
That being said, I have tried it with my Sig P238 and cargo shorts. If you can't holster it any other way, then that's a great option... much better than not carrying at all.
And as others have said, any gun, holstered anyway, is pointed at something all the time. The golden rule IMO, only applies when you're holding an unholstered firearm.
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August 23rd, 2012, 04:37 AM
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Since starting this thread a few days ago I have been working with the pocket carry on my LCR. I'm feeling more comfortable with it but acknowledge that drawing while sitting will be very difficult in some of my everyday clothes. But its better than not carrying at all. I don't really notice the weight since the LCR is light and the holster prevents any print of the gun so that's all good. Sometimes in my work I end up working up quite a sweat and I am a little concerned heavy perspiration might not be too good for the revolver over time (but hey, it's "plastic", right?). As far as the original question about where the gun is aimed when I sit I can usually adjust the direction and point it more down by simply using my thumb on the butt and pushing it so I don't think I'm taking any risks with that. I'm not reaching into my pocket and grasping the gun, just sticking my thumb in a bit. And I do not carry anything else in that pocket - just the gun.
Overall I think I will stick with my pocket carry LCR setup and overcome some of my nagging doubts. Comfort will develop over time and experience. I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one who is uncomfortable with muzzle sweeping others with their choice of carry method. It's a personal choice in the end and thankfully there are a lot of holster/carry options out there.
Thanks to all for the input and discussion. I'm still pretty new around here and I do appreciate the openness and friendliness of the forums and all the great info as well.
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August 23rd, 2012, 05:16 AM
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#38 | | Moderator
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It looks like your take aways are a good recap of the advantages and disadvantages of the LCR in a pocket holster. Each of us must figure out what works for them and the good and bad of that carry method.
Don't worry about perspiration and the LCR, as I carry mine (at times) in a Pistol Wear belly band type holster when I exercise walk. I unload and wipe down with a silicone gun cloth when I finish and no problems over the last two years +.
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September 10th, 2012, 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Jesters Dead I'll say it one more time: Pocket Carry Sucks. | Quote:
Originally Posted by Hornet Don't much care for pocket carry. | I'm curious as to why you fellers feel that way. I find it comfortable, inconspicuous, efficient and VERY convenient. Particularly down here in southwest Florida where the uniform of the day, almost 365 days a year, is a t-shirt, pair of shorts and sandals.
For me it's the old cliche "it's better to carry something than nothing". I find it quick, easy and simple to slip a little pocket-rocket into the strong side front pocket whenever I leave the house. No muss, no fuss, no hassle, no worries.
Of course we all know that other cliche too: "Opinions are like edit, everybody has one"  But that's mine and I'm sticking to it.
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September 10th, 2012, 07:37 PM
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I pocket carry a LCP all day every day in warm weather in cargo shorts pocket. No holster
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October 17th, 2012, 06:36 PM
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No problem...I use Uncle George holster for my LCP...back pocket holster
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October 17th, 2012, 07:30 PM
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Or.... you could switch to a church where you kneel most of the time. There are some that pray with their face on the floor and their buns up in the air. Either of those positions would keep the muzzle pointing down.
Joking aside, you raise a great point. I have had similar thoughts with appendix carry, knowing what is in a direct line of the barrel. With appendix carry, sitting down aims the gun at your groin. Same problem, closer target- |
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October 17th, 2012, 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by ECpackers i personally don't understand pocket carry. might as well just have the gun in your pocket, as the holster is just a more padded pocket. and with those little LCp/LCR guns, theres no way they rub on you as annoyingly as your car keys would. lol | Besides for safety reasons, the holster brakes up the outline of the gun so it doesn't print through. It's supposed to be concealed, remember.
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October 17th, 2012, 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Waveform I recently bought an LCR and decided to try it as a pocket carry using an inexpensive nylon pocket carry holster. I wore it to church yesterday and it ocurred to me that when I am sitting down the muzzle of a loaded gun is pointed at the back of the person sitting in front of me. This suddenly made me feel a bit uncomfortable as this is violating a couple of the "10 Commandments of Gun Safety" (ironic to think of the "other" 10 Commandments while sitting in church...). I was wearing loose fitting slacks so I sorta rotated the holster in my pocket so the barrel was pointing more toward the floor.
Anyone else had this same feeling when carrying in your pocket? Am I being too cautious or worrying about something I shouldn't? | If you pocket carry, then you will find yourself in this situation everywhere you go, to restaurants, movie theaters, etc. I could understand being nervous carrying some semi-auto "cocked and locked" that way, but anyone who manages to accidentally discharge a DAO revolver in a good pocket holster shouldn't be out in society, period. This is one of the benefits great of the revolver.
For this Gentleman, pocket carry is the way to go most of the time. The idea of some big gun jammed between my waste somewhere on a daily basis doesn't appeal to me at all. Exceptions would be camping, hiking, bike riding, etc. Ankle carry would only make sense if you are wearing decent, loose fitting slacks you can pull up quickly and that don't go up way past your ankle while sitting.
Other solutions are to wear a nice suit with an inside pocket to put the gun in or sit in the front row at church. Your Pastor will love you for it.
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October 17th, 2012, 09:15 PM
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Since starting this thread a few days ago I have been working with the pocket carry on my LCR. I'm feeling more comfortable with it but acknowledge that drawing while sitting will be very difficult in some of my everyday clothes.
| If your sitting and someone comes in shooting up the place, chances are your either going to jump right up or dive for the floor. Either way, you will probably be able to get to your gun better in those postions. Quote: |
Sometimes in my work I end up working up quite a sweat and I am a little concerned heavy perspiration might not be too good for the revolver over time (but hey, it's "plastic", right?).
| Revolvers are best suited to that kind of environment, and it's not just plastic, but aluminum and SS too. Quote: |
Overall I think I will stick with my pocket carry LCR setup and overcome some of my nagging doubts. Comfort will develop over time and experience. I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one who is uncomfortable with muzzle sweeping others with their choice of carry method. It's a personal choice in the end and thankfully there are a lot of holster/carry options out there.
| The holster will probably break in and get better over time. You can always try something else later if you feel the need. Plenty of options for that.
Last edited by ChrisLCR; October 17th, 2012 at 09:23 PM.
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