here is the issueThis is a discussion on here is the issue within the CCW forums, part of the Firearm Forum category; I have a concealed carry license for Florida. I live for half the year in Wis. which does not recognize florida's concealed carry license. I ...
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July 28th, 2012, 12:32 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Fort Myers Fl
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I have a concealed carry license for Florida. I live for half the year in Wis. which does not recognize florida's concealed carry license. I cannot get a Wisc. CC license because I'm not a resident....even though I own a home here for the past 20 years. My domicile is Florida.
So the problem is I'm forced to carry my weapon concealed for protection and yet I'm doing so in violation of Wisc. law. What is an honest person to do? I want to be protected, and I'm not depending on someone else to do it. But if I do have to use my gun then I'm doing so illeagally.
What I have chosen to do is carry concealed and let the chips fall where they may. At least I will be alive and so will my loved ones I'm protecting. If I carry the weapon exposed on my hip the cops will shake me down for fun.
what say you out there? 
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July 28th, 2012, 01:17 PM
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#2 | | Bat Man
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It looks like WI will accept a non-resident carry permit from MN. I would check that out and get one if possible. It is never a good idea to carry illegally.
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July 29th, 2012, 09:40 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Fort Myers Fl
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Has anyone any informed information on the possibility of the nation wide reciprocity act becomming law?
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July 29th, 2012, 09:58 AM
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I think the answer to your dilemma is to obtain a Non-Resident Utah permit. You can do so without ever having to set foot in Utah. You need to take a Utah-approved class, but Utah has approved classes in a lot of different states - Florida and Wisconsin included.
Having the Florida permit and the Utah permit would cover you in both Florida and Wisconsin and a lot of other states.
Getting the Utah permit will involve a little bit of a hassle with finding a convenient class, getting photos taken, application submission - But all of that will seem like a drop in the bucket to the hassle of getting caught carrying concealed in Wisconsin without a permit.
See "www.handgunlaw.us" and look at the Utah page for their non-resident application and process, including a list of Utah-approved classes in various states.
You can also use the info at"www.handgunlaw.us" to see what other states are covered by your various permits. A good site with lots of good information.
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July 29th, 2012, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by NewportNewsMike  I think the answer to your dilemma is to obtain a Non-Resident Utah permit. You can do so without ever having to set foot in Utah. You need to take a Utah-approved class, but Utah has approved classes in a lot of different states - Florida and Wisconsin included.
Having the Florida permit and the Utah permit would cover you in both Florida and Wisconsin and a lot of other states.
Getting the Utah permit will involve a little bit of a hassle with finding a convenient class, getting photos taken, application submission - But all of that will seem like a drop in the bucket to the hassle of getting caught carrying concealed in Wisconsin without a permit.
See "www.handgunlaw.us" and look at the Utah page for their non-resident application and process, including a list of Utah-approved classes in various states.
I've found that most of the concealed weapons sites are not accurate or not up to date. The only safe way is to go to the Attorney General of each state.
You can also use the info at"www.handgunlaw.us" to see what other states are covered by your various permits. A good site with lots of good information. | I have a resident WA, non-resident AZ, and MN license which covers me in the states I go to.
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July 29th, 2012, 10:34 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Oregon
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Originally Posted by Leftyjp I have a concealed carry license for Florida. I live for half the year in Wis. which does not recognize florida's concealed carry license. I cannot get a Wisc. CC license because I'm not a resident....even though I own a home here for the past 20 years. My domicile is Florida.
So the problem is I'm forced to carry my weapon concealed for protection and yet I'm doing so in violation of Wisc. law. What is an honest person to do? I want to be protected, and I'm not depending on someone else to do it. But if I do have to use my gun then I'm doing so illeagally.
What I have chosen to do is carry concealed and let the chips fall where they may. At least I will be alive and so will my loved ones I'm protecting. If I carry the weapon exposed on my hip the cops will shake me down for fun.
what say you out there? | How long do you have to reside in Wisc.before your a resident?? Most states it's either 3 mo. or 6 mo.
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July 29th, 2012, 06:03 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Fort Myers Fl
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The idea on getting a Utah permit is a great one. I will pursue that. As for the other response asking how long one has to live in Wisc. Before you are a resident is as follows. I make my domicile in Fl. , vote, pay taxes, have a drivers license etc. in Wis. I only have a residence and pay taxes.
Thanks for the various responses. You are all correct in your advice not to carry concealed without a license. The risk is far to great if I had to use the weapon in defense.
Will let you know if the Utah permit works.
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August 1st, 2012, 02:19 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Florida
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Originally Posted by Leftyjp I have a concealed carry license for Florida. I live for half the year in Wis. which does not recognize florida's concealed carry license. I cannot get a Wisc. CC license because I'm not a resident....even though I own a home here for the past 20 years. My domicile is Florida.
So the problem is I'm forced to carry my weapon concealed for protection and yet I'm doing so in violation of Wisc. law. What is an honest person to do? I want to be protected, and I'm not depending on someone else to do it. But if I do have to use my gun then I'm doing so illeagally.
What I have chosen to do is carry concealed and let the chips fall where they may. At least I will be alive and so will my loved ones I'm protecting. If I carry the weapon exposed on my hip the cops will shake me down for fun.
what say you out there? | My family came to Miami in 1923, but we've been steadily moving north to keep thecrime and hectic lifestyle at bay. My parents finally gave up due to the ever increasing taxes here and moved to N.C. Why do you use Florida as your homestead, are the taxes that high in Wisc?
I'm not positive, but I believe N.C., like Texas has mandatory concealed carry.
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August 1st, 2012, 04:09 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Nc
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Originally Posted by red feather How long do you have to reside in Wisc.before your a resident?? Most states it's either 3 mo. or 6 mo. | It is more complicated than that become a resident and Wi will want
income tax and then he goes back to Fl and Wi will still want the tax.
Licence plates, car reg, driver licence; etc.
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August 1st, 2012, 04:16 PM
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Just a reminder to forum members NJ and NY state so not recognize any other states carry permit and the only way to transport a handgun legally is unloaded in a case and ammo in a separate container. i also recommend that if possible use a sedan not an suv or van so as to not have the firearm case visible to a police officer. Also the state of nj interpets the federal pass thru on a journey very strictly. If you must go thru the state with a handgun do so preferably non stop and if you must stop get gas or food on the highway that you are traveling on. By this I mean do not go 5 miles off the road you were on to check out the great restaurant some one told you about some police and prosecutors will interpet that as interupting your journey and the federal law does not apply. I am not saying they are right just the way it is.
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August 1st, 2012, 04:40 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Pa
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Originally Posted by Leftyjp Has anyone any informed information on the possibility of the nation wide reciprocity act becomming law? | I hope the answer to your question is a positive one ! I know Bloomberg would have a coronary,Hes about due !
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August 1st, 2012, 04:42 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: North Carolina
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Unless you frequent, HIGH crime areas and are truly at real risk, the likelihood you will ever need to use your gun in SD is very low. The likelihood someone will see your gun and report you is much higher. At which point you become a felon, possibly go to jail, spend lots of $$, and most importantly lose your rights to carry in all states. Suggest you get permits others mention here, or you move, or you DO NOT CARRY ILLEGALLY. It simply is not worth it. Sometimes life sucks. Just be glad you don't live in the Northeast, IL, Cali, HI, or other spots in this country.
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August 1st, 2012, 07:05 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: California
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Originally Posted by Leftyjp Has anyone any informed information on the possibility of the nation wide reciprocity act becomming law? | CA, IL, & NY will probably never accept a nationwide reciprocity.
I'm sure there will be exclusion states if ever such a thing occurred.
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August 1st, 2012, 07:50 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Smyrna, Delaware
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Originally Posted by yzingerr CA, IL, & NY will probably never accept a nationwide reciprocity.
I'm sure there will be exclusion states if ever such a thing occurred. | Should it pass, and hopefully it does, states that issue permits whether they rarely do or often do will fall under national reciprocity. However a state that does not issue (Illionis) will not have to comply. So states such as California, Jersey or NY would have to become a NO issue state to not comply with reciprocity.
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August 1st, 2012, 07:56 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: INDIANA
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Originally Posted by NewportNewsMike I think the answer to your dilemma is to obtain a Non-Resident Utah permit. You can do so without ever having to set foot in Utah. You need to take a Utah-approved class, but Utah has approved classes in a lot of different states - Florida and Wisconsin included.
Having the Florida permit and the Utah permit would cover you in both Florida and Wisconsin and a lot of other states.
Getting the Utah permit will involve a little bit of a hassle with finding a convenient class, getting photos taken, application submission - But all of that will seem like a drop in the bucket to the hassle of getting caught carrying concealed in Wisconsin without a permit.
See "www.handgunlaw.us" and look at the Utah page for their non-resident application and process, including a list of Utah-approved classes in various states.
You can also use the info at"www.handgunlaw.us" to see what other states are covered by your various permits. A good site with lots of good information. | +1...Utah Permit works in OH too...where most of my wife's family resides! It solved the issue of us living in IN and driving 15 min over the state line 3-4x per month!
I wish we did have a national reciprocity law.
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