weblance

Because of the shootings in Aurora, I have decided to change my EDC. I have pocket carried an LCP for months, but have changed to my KLCR(357). I changed out the Tamer grip for the Hogue Boot Grip because I still will pocket carry my KLCR. I will also have in my other pocket, 1 speed strip. Now I know that equipped the way the coward was, maybe I dont stand a chance, but I do feel better about having a .357 as opposed to a .380

Have any of you changed weapons, or tactics, because of the event in Aurora?

terry_p

First off none of us know what we would do but in a dark movie theater, with gas grenades going off and the shooter with a rifle I likely would have tried to get out if I could. If I couldn't avoid it then I would have fired my handgun. As I think about it that might be a spot where a crimson trace earned it's keep.

I still will carry my LCR or SP101 as the possibility of being involved in a similar situation is quite remote.

NickFroelich

Ya seeing now that the kid came very prepared with full body armor, helmet and gas mask, I probably would've tried to get out. I don't think my 9mm and 31 rounds wouldve competed with his rifle and body armor.

But now as to add to my EDC, maybe I'll wear my body armor to be safe =P haha jk

Tobie

As a retired LEO, I carry every day as if my life or the lives of my loved ones depend upon it. After 40+ years working in L/ E, one thing that I've learned is that you don't get a schedule of the days events. I carry a Springfield TRP, a Benchmade Triage knife, and a Surefire light everywhere that I go. The only place that I cannot legally carry is in a federal building. I've never understood why a tremendous number of folks go to the trouble and expense of obtaining a CCW and then leave their gun in the closet. I asked this question during the last class that I taught and was floored at the number of full time LEOS who didn't carry off-duty. Can you imagine the sick feeling you'd get if you were in the situation that those folks in Colorado and had left your gun at home?
This cretin made this personal- he obviously had the ability to construct and deploy any number of destructive devices but he chose guns because guns are really personal tools.
I was taught that serial killers do terrible things because they have to- a mass murderer does it because he wants to.
I may die in a gunfight but it won't be for lack of being prepared or being willing to act.

echo6tango

No change here ... no need as the events in Aurora are similar to event(s) already incorporated into my Threat Analysis and Mitigation Plan.

Incidentally, the events in Aurora are exactly why I've garnered bad looks from my wife over the years ... I refuse to go to a movie unless it's a matinee, preferably during the week (that's part of the mitigation plan).

Tobie

E6tango- that's a good plan. My wife is a retired guidance counsellor and one of her first remarks was " what kind of ignorant $%&#@ takes their 6 year old to a movie at midnight? Never mind the hour- this movie is not for kids!" I had to agree.

Ulfric

Like others have said, I will not be changing my carry method. I always have and always will carry either a .40 or .45, and I maintain a pretty thorough threat assessment and situational awareness mentality at all times, even more so when any kind of large crowd or gathering is involved. Mentally working your way through and visualizing seemingly "impossible" scenarios is a very good practice to get into for anyone who carries, IMHO.

Returning fire on the punk may have distracted him or even got a lucky round or 2 into him. I personally would have considered it a very good deal to save 70 some citizens (12 dead, 58 or so wounded?), even at the cost of my own life.

Gas masks are not exactly bullet proof, and I have yet to see where he had anything covering his arms either. Not the best targets in the world, true, but they were viable.

luvmysr9

Another thing I'm curious about. Here in TN for instance, the law states that in a life threatening situation you can use deadly force to protect yourself and others, IF you're not breaking any carry laws. Now keep in mind that in TN, all "NO GUN" & gunbuster signs carry the full force of the law & you can be procecuted & in some cases possibly loose your carry rights. Even though someone might save lives, what is the likelyhood that charges will be pressed against them for illegally carrying in a gun free zone?

Sr40ken

Summer time I carry my SR40 and cold weather a 7 shot .357 magnum. On road trips a long gun is usually in the back seat. The wife always has her 1911 also.

BuckJM53

Hasn't changed a thing for me.

Keeping it real, none of us really know for sure what we would have done in this circumstance given the significant number variables including gas, limited light, panicked people, distance, line of sight, etc. If I had been close to an exit, I likely would have removed myself and my wife from the danger if at all possible as my number one reason for carry is to protect myself and my wife. If I was unable to get out and in close proximity to the shooter, I would have likely taken my best shot at stopping him. Even with body armor, he might have ultimately changed his plan quickly when hit with a few rounds of .45acp and the realization that someone was shooting back.

luvmysr9 ... Unfortunately, in the eyes of the law you would be as guilty of breaking the law as the shooter and shouldn't complain or be surprised if arrested. Whether or not you would be prosecuted and if so, whether or not a jury would convict you given that your actions likely saved lives is the big unknown here.

azbuckeye

I haven't made any changes other than committing to carry EVERYDAY! No more excuses for not carrying something...be it a .380 acp or my normal 9mm/.357 rotation.

terry_p

I agree with Bucks conclusion and questions. To me it's the old judged by 12 vrs carried by 6 conundrum.

packnpaddle

I have to say I've tweaked my system this past year, dumping a fine little Sig P230 that I loved. My decision was confirmed in that now famous video of the incident in FLA where that CCW holder confronted and shot those two who were robbing everyone at that internet cafe. Yes, it stopped the robbery and possible attack, but both could have easily started shooting despite being hit by the 380. So that video confirmed my letting my 380 go a few months ago.

So I had been eyeing up a compact or sub-compact 9mm and decided this week on the SR9c over everything in Sig's lineup which says a lot because I'm a Sig fan. Little did I know that day I did my paperwork what was about to unfold that evening, sadly.

I looked at the LC9 also and went a little bigger with the thought of the recent tragedies. The old standard for the fight in which it is necessary to use a pistol
to be at 10-20 feet doesn't cut it for an active shooter situation with rifles and shotguns. I'm not letting anyone with that hardware against my pistol get that close. When choosing this new pistol which I plan to CC, I bought it for the active shooter in mind, since because the places I frequent where I would feel the need to carry are usually a big store/mall situation or big park gathering. The rest of the time for me is spent on the trail or water.

So yes, I'd have to say although I started the process earlier than the event that just happened, I have been tweaking my system with just this in mind. Almost eerie how it played out and how I've been thinking about my CCW choices in the last few weeks. Almost a premonition type thing.

gasbag

I am not changing a thing. To predict what I would do in a situation like that theater would be an exercise in futility.
No one would be able to predict that. We are all Rambos until it really happens.
Depending on where I am going I carry either my Sig P238 or a Sig P229.
I have always used caution and will continue to do so.
Living in fear only means they have won.

shootist

No change same SP101 357mag.