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This is a discussion on primary self defense ccw caliber within the CCW forums, part of the Firearm Forum category; Originally Posted by chaz Does everyone think that a .380 is not effective . Well, since this is an internet gun forum I doubt there's ...


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View Poll Results: primary self-defense caliber
22 rimfire/25 acp 35 1.17%
.32 caliber (any) 29 0.97%
.380 acp 234 7.81%
9mm 1,039 34.69%
38 spl 342 11.42%
357 mag 440 14.69%
40 s&w 340 11.35%
other 43 1.44%
44 spl 27 0.90%
45 colt/acp 466 15.56%
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Old August 10th, 2008, 07:13 PM   #76
 
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Does everyone think that a .380 is not effective .
Well, since this is an internet gun forum I doubt there's anything agreed to by everyone.

Still, I can't see why anyone would choose the .380 as a defense cartridge. Sure, I'd rather have a .380 than a broom, but why go with such an under powered cartridge if you have a choice?

Firearms authority Massad Ayoob says he's seen point blank .380 rounds that would barely penetrate a pig's skull but didn't have the energy left over to do any damage to the brain within. Why would anybody choose such a cartridge? Even if center forehead shot from a .380 could be guaranteed to drop a bad guy in his tracks (which is far from clear), what if the circumstances won't permit a head shot and/or the assailant is wearing a heavy coat?

I know the .380 still has it's champions, though for the life of me I can't see why.



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Old August 10th, 2008, 07:33 PM   #77
 
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I have to vote for the .380 (Bersa) as my CCW at this time. Hoping to upsize sometime soon however. Even thinking about the SP101 in 327 version.
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Old August 15th, 2008, 08:26 PM   #78
 
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In my home, .357. Two rounds of snake shot, followed by two 158 grn. 38s, followed by two full house 125 JHP. .357 rounds. But I'm starting to rethink this, as I live in California.Is it better to wound, and be sued? And maybe die? Or is it better to kill, and live, and go to jail? Welcome to California..........
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Old August 18th, 2008, 05:20 AM   #79
 
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I switch back and forth between a Kel-tec P32 in .32ACP and a Model 60 stainless S&W Chief's Special in .38 Special depending upon various factors such as my clothes, temperatures ect. Since I bought a Ruger SR9 this week and am delighted with my new toy, I have taken it out on my midnight vampire stroll a couple of times.

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I know the .380 still has it's champions, though for the life of me I can't see why.
Because it IS an effective caliber. Even a so-called "Firearms authority" can be wrong from time to time. Tests in ballistics gelatin show that even the "almighty" .45ACP doesn't penetrate much different than a .380 or 9x19-even with 2-4 layers of denim simulating heavy clothing.
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With the modern ammo we have today, a 380acp is not a very bad rnd. But there is a host of other Cal. that are a better choice. I carry one, but only as a Backup to a bigger Cal.
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loyally choose my .45 over my 9mm for Primary carry.

I use the 9mm for a backup.
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Old August 29th, 2008, 08:17 AM   #83
 
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Think like this. If all heck broke loose and say 6 months to a year lator after all the stores had been looted and the only way to get amo is through the under ground or Army. Then what would you be looking for?

For me it's 9mm Hp.
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My primary is a 1911 in .45ACP. However I would feel quite comfortable with my Security Six or my wifes SP101!
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Ruger SP101 w/ 38+P+ for most occasions, LCP 380 for any clothing, and a Kimber 4" Pro Covert II in 45ACP for winter.
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I carry the LCP simply because it is very easy to conceal AND to keep concealed (when you're bending over etc.)Here in Texas if someone sees your gun then you have broken the law!


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357

What do you guys think of the 357 Police Service Six 2" 3/4?
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My first choice is a 9mm more round capacity and quicker follow up shots as compared to a .45.
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Just carry a 9mm myself. I believe 15 9mm holes amounts to more lead than 7 .45 holes.

tk

you mean 9 .45 holes..

8+1

a .45 is a big round my friend. and it packs some serious power behind it.

9mm are great...but for a 1 stopper...I carry my .45 ( as a primary ) if Im traveling through unfamiliar cities and towns.

9mm is a must for a backup.
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Think like this. If all heck broke loose and say 6 months to a year lator after all the stores had been looted and the only way to get amo is through the under ground or Army. Then what would you be looking for?

For me it's 9mm Hp.
if it came down to that...

It would be Winchester SXT 147GR JHPs for the 9mm

and

Winchester Ranger +P 230GR JHPs for the .45
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