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View Poll Results: Concealed vs. Open carry
I feel concealed carry is wrong, we should exercise our rights openly 10 2.13%
I support open carry, but conceal most of the time. 231 49.15%
My state doesn't allow open carry 50 10.64%
I think open carry presents more liabilities than benefits, but shouldn't be illegal 145 30.85%
I think open carry advocates hurt gunowners by picking a fight we already won 34 7.23%
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Old November 27th, 2012, 07:37 PM   #106
 
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I guess even though in MN I am able to open carry, I just believe that keeping the attention to yourself at a minimum is best. I personally think it gives me an upper hand not showing what I have..........if anything



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Old November 27th, 2012, 07:43 PM   #107
 
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Colorado has open carry but I will be carrying concealed. I want it to be a surprise to the bad guy.....
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Old November 27th, 2012, 07:59 PM   #108
 
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Here in Oregon generally, with the exception of 5 cites (one of which I live in), open carry is legal as long as you have a CHL. That's what they refer to it as Concealed Handgun Licenses.

Anywho, after paying for the class, the licenses, the holster, I cc all of the time so I get my monies worth. Seriously though, I am of the mindset that what they don't know won't hurt them, that is unless the are evil-doers....
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Old November 28th, 2012, 10:58 AM   #109
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The non-requirement of licensing for concealed carry and open carry and gun ownership in Arizona is reported to be real and true (example: Arizona Allows Concealed Weapons Without Permit - CBS News).

My FFL also states to me this is true.

Yes, there are websites still saying one must have a Arizona CCW license but they are not up to date according to the above report and other reports.

The law that is reported to have made this change is Arizona SB 1108 AKA the Arizona Constitutional Carry law:

http://www.azleg.gov/legtext/49leg/2r/bills/sb1108s.pdf

Perhaps one or more of the members here with more experience in reading laws than I have can locate in the above PDF where implicitly it is stated that a CCW permit is no longer required or, by implication, where the requirement was deleted.

In any event, one must still pass an ATF background check at the point of sale for every firearm purchase.

Many folks still obtain an Arizona CCW permit which allows them to legally CCW in many other states. It is reported that that includes 38 other states.

Attending a CCW class, regardless of whether doing so is to obtain a CCW license or not, is doing the responsible thing to do in the view of many.

Many here in Arizona also advocate an annual attendance of a qualified firearm safety class/ CCW class to stay up to date.

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My take on it is that a lot of people are freaked out by guns. Why make them nervous if you don't have to? If they can't see my gun then as far as they are concerned I don't have one.
In North Carolina there is no law prohibiting open carry. However, there are several points to know as follows.

(copied from The NC pistol and rifle assoc.)
Private property owners and businesses can post "no guns."
Firearms are strictly prohibited on state-owned property, except rest areas and state lands where hunting is permitted.
Local governments can (and do) enact prohibitions against "display of firearms" in cities and/or specific areas within cities or counties, which means they can't be visible. Under this statute there is absolutely no requirement for the city or county to post notice of the display ban.
Local governments can (and do) enact firearms bans on local government property and in parks and recreational areas.
Any federally-owned property or federally-regulated property like banks and Post Offices is of course a prohibited area.
Much of the Outer Banks is "National Seashore," and firearms are prohibited in those areas.
So in theory that leaves everywhere else in the state - except for one more thing. There is a common-law offense in NC called "going armed to the terror of the people." Basically what this means is that if someone sees you carrying a firearm and calls the police to report "person with a gun," you can be charged with this offense. It's not often used in rural areas, but has been used in populated areas. If you are an out-of-state visitor who is not here lawfully hunting or engaged in some overt firearms-related event such as a competition, it will be hard to talk your way out of it.

So if you have read all the way down to here, back to my thoughts on the subject. If you don't want to attract attention and possibly meet police officers. I suggest carrying legally concealed. It is nobody's business but yours if you chose to carry.
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I think open carry has it's place. The woods, hiking, etc. Walking around walmart that way is just going to cause unnecessary commotion.
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I do both. If one doesnt want to, then pay your $200 (In NC anyway)and CC away. OC is free as it should be but sadly with a lot of restrictions in NC.
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I think the 2A says it correctly, "...the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed"

It's up to the person to decide how they want to bear their arms, not the govt, or at least that's how it should be. Anything else is an infringement like is happening here in Cali. Not only is open carry deemed illegal but the govt gets to decide who may concealed carry. How do these people in govt get away with breaking the Constitution and what can we 'the people' do about it?

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Old November 30th, 2012, 06:01 PM   #114
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Utah has open carry. I prefer concealed though.
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Ohio permits OC and licensed CCW. After seeing all the problems those who OC go through with LE, I CCW away from home as I do not want the the attention (I do OC at home on my property). That being said, I do support OC as I believe it is part of our 2nd Amendment rights and needs to be protected.
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Here is some food for thought...



In the view of many, it boils down to what 'appropriate' means.

Gun Grabbers work to etch away constantly at the 2nd amendment and debates such as open vs conceal, which seems innocent on the surface, is actually not so innocent in the light of day.

It is not a one or the other... we have a right to do both and reasons to do both responsibly and within the law.

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I CC even though I live in NH which is OC. I don't want most people, except for very close friends and relatives, that I even own firearms. Yiogo

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Old December 2nd, 2012, 05:27 AM   #118
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I CC even though I live in NH which is OC. I don't want most people, except for very close friends and relatives, that I even own firearms. Yiogo
I have been in N.H. many many times over the years and not once have I ever seen anyone open carry but I have seen it in Arizona.

I can understand why some people want the fact of their gun ownership private information, Yiogo.

All the time I lived in North East Massachusetts, I felt vulnerable as if only by the grace of luck and taking a multitude of liberty-limiting tactics that I was not victimized. It sucked.

I would circle (sometimes for a long time) at shopping mall parking lots waiting for a close visible spot to open up; Not travel alone at night along dark streets; only walk in groups; not walk my dog after dark; and the list goes on and on. It's like living life in a war zone with no means of any meaningful self-defense when alone for most women.

I still don't take unnecessary risks even today but I no longer have that constant nagging fear of complete helplessness I have lived with most of my life.

Now that I live in Arizona I want people to know I own guns and that I am no longer an easy target ripe for the picking.

I openly wear my guns from time to time around the community, not just because I can, not just because a right not exercised is lost, but because I want potential bad guys to be on notice that if attacked I have the means to fight back.

Giving them that pause to think may well prevent an attack on me in the future and prevent a situation where I would be forced by circumstances to draw and use my weapons in self-defense.

In other words, my open carry is a warning to those who do harm to others: I am *not* an easy target. Do *not* attack me.
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Open carry is legal in Wisconsin for those who wish to regularly meet with local cops who will question them about their fully lawful activities.

Just try to name any other lawful activity that if reported to 911 will send a squad car. If you call 911 to report somebody lawfully walking their dog, no cops will be sent. Now if they're wearing a gun on their hip & walking a dog, now that's something that will automatically be investigated. Why?

It's the most insane thing. Criminals generally try to avoid attention, thus prudently keeping their (illegal) guns hidden. While a visible gun has the potential to freak somebody out, that fear has no logical basis. Such a person should be in an endless panic attack, as guns could be hidden in so many places on potentially everyone.
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I have been in N.H. many many times over the years and not once have I ever seen anyone open carry but I have seen it in Arizona.

I can understand why some people want the fact of their gun ownership private information, Yiogo.

All the time I lived in North East Massachusetts, I felt vulnerable as if only by the grace of luck and taking a multitude of liberty-limiting tactics that I was not victimized. It sucked.

I would circle (sometimes for a long time) at shopping mall parking lots waiting for a close visible spot to open up; Not travel alone at night along dark streets; only walk in groups; not walk my dog after dark; and the list goes on and on. It's like living life in a war zone with no means of any meaningful self-defense when alone for most women.

I still don't take unnecessary risks even today but I no longer have that constant nagging fear of complete helplessness I have lived with most of my life.

Now that I live in Arizona I want people to know I own guns and that I am no longer an easy target ripe for the picking.

I openly wear my guns from time to time around the community, not just because I can, not just because a right not exercised is lost, but because I want potential bad guys to be on notice that if attacked I have the means to fight back.

Giving them that pause to think may well prevent an attack on me in the future and prevent a situation where I would be forced by circumstances to draw and use my weapons in self-defense.

In other words, my open carry is a warning to those who do harm to others: I am *not* an easy target. Do *not* attack me.
If there's a situation where I'd prefer to not OC is something like being in a store that happens to get robbed where I'd rather have the element of surprise on a BG. But for every day I think there's a lot of merit to OC, not to mention the freedom of not having to hassle with concealling my 1911 on a hot summer day.
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