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This is a discussion on Open Carry Vs. Concealed within the CCW forums, part of the Firearm Forum category; Originally Posted by JohnDoe After coming back to read responses I have this: it is sad days that we are even discussing this in AMERICA. ...


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View Poll Results: Concealed vs. Open carry
I feel concealed carry is wrong, we should exercise our rights openly 7 1.82%
I support open carry, but conceal most of the time. 200 51.95%
My state doesn't allow open carry 45 11.69%
I think open carry presents more liabilities than benefits, but shouldn't be illegal 105 27.27%
I think open carry advocates hurt gunowners by picking a fight we already won 28 7.27%
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Old November 24th, 2010, 09:51 AM   #61
 
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After coming back to read responses I have this: it is sad days that we are even discussing this in AMERICA. The brits and their hegemony have won. We have become the uk, only a little longer and this will be chatter for bygone days of old ... between this thread and More about the old days ... I almost shed a tear ...
Don't be sad, get mad. Anything as good as America is going to be a target for conquest. The fight for the right to bear arms is an old fight, and it's tireing sometimes, but it's definately worth the fight. Never give up!




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Old November 24th, 2010, 09:53 AM   #62
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don't be sad, get mad. Anything as good as america is going to be a target for comquest. The fight for the right to bear arms is an old fight, and it's tireing sometimes, but it's definately worth the fight. Never give up!
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Bookman ... With all due respect and based on your earlier stated standard, why is your safety not more important than your friend's comfort at his wedding or your comfort of wearing a coat when it's cold?


Bookman ... As far as I can see, no one here is condemning your choice to open carry, and as I said earlier, I support your right 100%. However, your presentation of concealed carry as an inferior self defense technique sure makes it seem as though you have little tolerance for those who do not drink the "open carry kool-aide". Guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one.
1. I wasn't referring to my friend's comfort zone. I just don't think a tux and a gun belt go together very well. Also, hypothermia is not a valid safety option.

2. I never said I condemn Concealed Carry. I just prefer to Open Carry whenever circumstances and weather permit.

And yes, we can agree to disagree.
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The poll didn't offer appropriate options, they were all skewed to be for CC and against OC. I OC 95% of the time including when I ride my motorcycle. If I am CC'ing it is usually because of the weather and the coat that I'm wearing.
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The bottom line for me .... While I am a firm believer in the 2nd Amendment as well as all of the Freedoms and Protections enumerated in our Constitution, I choose to exercise my right to bear arms in a quiet and responsible way and as a private matter.
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Bookman, I still think you make some red hot valid points. We have become brainwashed to think guns are evil. I haven't the slightest idea when they went from being tools to objects "only good for killing" (I have been told this countless times at this point) but it is ingrained into so many of us that even gun owners with argue this logic. I had a buddy even rant to me about the movie "Bambi" and how his kids cry at him going deer hunting now to the point that he quit. I thought he was joking until his face turned an ugly shade of purple when I laughed at him. The fact remains that an unarmed populace will always be easier to control than one that can defend itself. Which do you think leadership prefers to try and control? The armed or the unarmed?
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CC vs OC, the debate rages on. This is probably one of the most personal decisions a gun owner can make, if law always a decision, next to weapon choice.

There have been many opinions posted here and all have good points. Maybe one day it will truly be a choice, law will allow either.

I started out CCing cause it was what I felt comfortable with. I liked the idea of having a gun, but was scared to OC, fearing the reactions of both citizens and LEOs. I had become so comfortable CCing, it felt strange not to have it.

In Georgia, there have been a lot of man hours put into changing the laws, removing the "public gathering" law and making it easier for us to carry. I had in the mean time purchased the SR9 and wanted to carry it from time to time. I decided it was time to OC, so I started in local shops that I knew were gun friendly. I worked my way up to more stores and eventually went to other cities while OCing. It was not only a way to protect myself, but also honor those who worked so hard to restore my rights to self protection. It also allowed me to show civilians that gun owners are not all evil with an intent to kill.

When I am able to carry (can't carry at work), it's 50/50, depending on what I am wearing.

All that said, I think either is fine and no one should be made to feel bad based on their personal decision.
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Bookman ... I'm personally not afraid of or uncomfortable with OC (and have plenty of brass ). While I'm 100% in agreement with anyone's right to OC if they choose to do so, I think that you would agree (and logic dictates) that those who OC do put themselves at greater risk of being the target of the police responding to a "man with a gun" call or at minimum creating an uncomfortable situation such as your encounter with the screaming woman.

Accordingly, since I understand in advance that many people (who do not automatically know my intentions) will be uncomfortable if I walk up to (or past) them displaying a firearm at the local mall, Walmart, kiddie park, etc., It simply makes more sense (from my viewpoint) for me to carry concealed when I'm not on my property or at the range, given the fact that the entire reason that I carry is to protect myself and my family and reduce my risk of being a victim of a violent crime.

The bottom line for me .... While I am a firm believer in the 2nd Amendment as well as all of the Freedoms and Protections enumerated in our Constitution, I choose to exercise my right to bear arms in a quiet and responsible way and as a private matter.
I'm really late to the party but I'm with SF8403 in agreeing with BuckJM53 on this one too.

I live in an open carry state but the problem is no one is knowledgeable of the law, to include law enforcement. So as stated above, who needs the hassle. But following that logic, we'll never see open carry accepted because no one is used to seeing it. Catch 22.

I open carry when hunting and fishing just for easy access, otherwise, I CC. I believe that the retired LEO above from Texas has the best fix. CC within the confines of the law but such that everyone (that matters) knows your carrying.

1) The good folks that know, i.e. law enforcement, present or prior military, others that carry concealed and knowledgeable citizens will recognize the posture, the clothing, faint print or just make an educated guess, etc. and that will be okay.

2)The bad guys that know what to look for or can make an educated guess, should and hopefully will choose another target.

3) Those folks that are good and don't know what's going on around them will be none the wiser and no harm is done.

4) Those that are bad and don't know what to look for stand the chance of making a poor choice.

I don't mean to imply that I can tell every instance when someone is carrying but after I started occasionally carrying, I began to take stock. I probably only recognize 20% of those that are carrying but at one time, I didn't even notice them.

And in defense of the poll taker, a good poll simply has to ask a concise question and the options have to be mutually exclusive and collectively exhaustive. All polling is skewed to some degree because of the nature of humans to question why someone is questioning. No thing human is without bias.
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I CC about 90% of the time. As others have stated, I CC the vast majority of the time so I don't draw attention to myself. I agree that is sad that an openly carried firearms draws extra attention, but it does. (It even draws attention in places where OC is relatively common.) I prefer to be a "grey man" in the crowd.
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I have a CC question that is really bugging me and I just can't get a difinitive answer from instructors or LEO's. I live in Ohio and have a CCL. MANY folks carry concealed with guns in pockets, coats and jackets WITHOUT holsters. I've been told it is NOT LEGAL unless in a holster, even if in pocket it has to be in a pocket holster or if in a coat/jacket it MUST first be in a HOLSTER. This seems ridiculous to me, and others, and I have been told that it is not necessary by some. I just can't define from the booklet that it is a MUST, they just mention carrying in a holster.
I'd like some opinions on this from CCL teachers and LEO's here. How do YOU interpret the law.

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Old December 31st, 2010, 06:18 PM   #71
 
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I voted that I support but conceal. I don't mind open carry in fact I prefer to open carry with full size guns in nice leather or shiny guns. 1911 or SS revolvers with a polish on it. I conceal most of the time because of the surprise factor that it gives me.

Generally I feel comfortable around other gun guys open or concealed. Most of my friends carry guns and that was kinda by design. Just my .02. Happy New Year.

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I'm not sure which I would prefer as I have never concealed carried or open carried except for hunting. I do plan on obtaining a CCP very soon. I do find it ridiculous that some states say you must be sure it does not print or get exposed. What if I need that last box of Captain Crunch at the grocery store that is on the top shelf?? Isn't some of the burden on the other person to not be eyeballing me so much? After all, I would be making every effort to not make it "in your face" obvious.

I don't think I would like the added attention of open carry but as I said, I have never done either.
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CCW FTW!

people like those NH Freestaters aren't helping anyone's cause IMHO.
going around making sure that EVERYONE sees their piece on their hip, and they thrive upon interactions w/LEOs and become quite douchy about it. instead of answering the LEOs questions quite simply, they feel the need to bring about the 2nd amendment, patriotism, birth rights, etc... instead of just answering the damn question asked. there's a big difference in excercising and exploiting. they're all over youtube and quite proud of it. feel free to check it out
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I open carry in the forest all the time. I've open carried in Colorado Springs a few times. No one has said a word.
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Moot point for me.....

PA doesn't allow Open Carry so my choice to carry concealed is made for me......it's concealed or it's nothing!

I'm fine with it, sometimes I push the envelope anyway and have a huge revolver shaped bulge under a thin T-shirt so there's no mistake I have a gun.....most times I like to stay "discreet".
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