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Old April 28th, 2017, 08:08 PM   #1
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PA new legislation. House bill 671.

I just got this email from my state rep. They are trying to pass new legislation the makes it VERY clear that cities like filthadelpia CANNOT make their own guns laws, or enforce them against law abiding citizens that carry firearms. Carry law state wide would be uniform across the board. This would ALSO include/ protect out of state carriers from states with CCW reciprocity. No libtard justice loop holes.

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Gabler Supports Legislation to Uphold Law-Abiding Citizens’ Firearms Rights 4/26/2017 HARRISBURG – State Rep. Matt Gabler (R-Clearfield/Elk) today joined the majority of his House colleagues in voting to support legislation that stands up for the rights of gun owners. House Bill 671 may now be considered by the state Senate.

“This bill is necessary in order to allow Pennsylvania’s current preemption law to work as it was intended,” Gabler said. “With more than 2,500 municipalities in Pennsylvania, a set of easily understandable and easy-to-follow laws is necessary to enable law-abiding citizens to exercise their constitutional rights as they travel across the state. Unfortunately, some municipalities have decided to disregard state law and enact their own illegal local ordinances. This bill will provide a realistic means to restore true uniformity to our state’s firearms laws.”

House Bill 671 is similar to legislation that passed in 2014 but was overturned by the Commonwealth Court for procedural reasons last year. Act 192 of 2014 would have allowed an individual or group to challenge a local gun ordinance and recoup legal costs associated with that challenge.

Under current law in Pennsylvania’s Crimes Code, no county, municipality or township may regulate the lawful ownership, possession, transfer or transportation of firearms or ammunition.

“The court’s decision was based on a technicality, not on disagreement with the intent of the legislation” added Gabler. “I am confident that House Bill 671 adequately avoids the technical issues that doomed Act 192 and will succeed in protecting law-abiding citizens’ rights across our state.”

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Old April 29th, 2017, 03:40 AM   #2
 
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As a firearms rights advocate...& resident of SW. Pa. I am glad to hear of some proposals, as this one.
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Old April 29th, 2017, 05:11 AM   #4
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Gabler has been a really good and sensible advocate for 2A & CCW issues.

And many other common sense laws for citizens.

He aint afraid to grab the bull by the horns , cut through the crap, and get it done.
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good luck. Nj has no state right to bear arms in our state constitution one of only a few such states but we do have a strong preemption law so at least our bad state laws cannot be exceeded by a local jurisdiction.
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If you have a CCW, you have been cleared by your local authorities and the FBI to carry a weapon. This should have always applied to all states. Hopefully it all passes.
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good luck. Nj has no state right to bear arms in our state constitution one of only a few such states but we do have a strong preemption law so at least our bad state laws cannot be exceeded by a local jurisdiction.
We are pretty much opposite. We have pretty good laws, and they adopted the Castle Doctrine a few years back.

But we do need something done about libtard sanctuarys making them up as they go. And filthadepia is ONE of the libtard armpit of PA. arm- pittsburg is the other.

They have BOTH claimed gun laws that were both against state law and the state constitution.

We have a "R" controlled house and legislature, so this will no doubt pass.

Then come the liberal law suits, which they will no doubt file in liberal philly. .
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I agree totally.
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I agree totally.
I also agree that if Your state issues a CCW permit to a law abiding citizen, it should be good and honored ANYWHERE in the USA.

That would take a national CC law,, and having the government do anything is a scary concept that could backfire once the morons in DC got ahold of it.

Ive also once thought maybe the better approach MIGHT be for DC to come up with a federal national CC permit separate from the states, but requiring ALL states honor it.

But as in sanctuary citys and libtard idiocy, immigration, medical pot, etc, alot of states dont abide by federal law anyway,, so we would be right back to square one, and possible MORE restrictions.

Its certainly a pig inna poke.
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I live in Indiana so it wouldn't be a problem for a permit to be honored here if there was a nation wide permit issued. However, I have family in NY state and under NY constitution it is unlawful for NY to recognize any other permit besides theirs. So, it would be very interesting to see the fallback of this issue if a nationally recognized permit were ever issued. I would definitely be in favor of it.
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This bill though seems like it comes from a sound minded person. I hope it goes through for you all who live in PA and I hope more legislation is proposed to simplify and protect 2A rights
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Here's hoping it works. What is wrong with these liberal cities. Oh, never mind I know, it's the voters.
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No preemption is an important piece of legislation to have in place. That way the little fiefdoms can't make up the rules as they go along to promote their political agenda's. Good luck.
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They're saying it will pass.They've easily got the votes for it with a 'R' controlled House AND legislature. They've been passing alot of stuff recently that the liberals have been unsucessfully TRYING to fight.

One, ( which Im not so sure was a good thing,) was they made it legal to hunt with an AR15. Im good with that for varmint hunting, but if the worthless game commission makes it legal for deer, it wont be safe to be in the woods in November.

Our hilly/bummer sponsored libtard Gov cant even seem stop things.
He DID manage to make pot legal,, which was insane IMO. Thats his big accomplishment since elected. EVERYTHING else he has tried they shut him down. He TRIED to repeal CC reciprocity,, but got nowhere. ALL of his 2A attacks failed miserably. They even went after his hilly sponsored AG who was a rabid anti gun liberal for abuse of power and lying to a grand jury. . She is now in jail.

The "R"s got the right idea. They are striking while they got control.
I wish the GOP in DC would do that.

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No preemption is an important piece of legislation to have in place. That way the little fiefdoms can't make up the rules as they go along to promote their political agenda's. Good luck.
They're saying it will pass.They've easily got the votes for it with a 'R' controlled House AND legislature. They've been passing alot of stuff recently that the liberals have been unsucessfully TRYING to fight.

One, ( which Im not so sure was a good thing,) was they made it legal to hunt with an AR15. Im good with that for varmint hunting, but if the worthless game commission makes it legal for deer, it wont be safe to be in the woods in November.

Our hilly/bummer sponsored libtard Gov cant even seem stop things.
He DID manage to make pot legal,, which was insane IMO. Thats his big accomplishment since elected. EVERYTHING else he has tried they shut him down. He TRIED to repeal CC reciprocity,, but got nowhere. ALL of his 2A attacks failed miserably. They even went after his hilly sponsored AG who was a rabid anti gun liberal for abuse of power and lying to a grand jury. . She is now in jail.

The "R"s got the right idea. They are striking while they got control.
I wish the GOP in DC would do that.
I understand that I am not the most knowledgeable person about guns. Much less so with rifles. But, why would the use of an AR-15 be any more dangerous than any other rifle for hunting? They're reliable, precise, and easily chambered in any popular hunting caliber with the proper adaptation for some of the bigger bored calibers.
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