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Old April 13th, 2017, 11:51 AM   #1
 
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Campus shooting at Northern AZ University

Anyone else following this NAU case?

NAU shooting case: Was Steven Jones an assassin or defending himself?

This could have an impact on campus carry. It strikes me a fairly complex case - not as simple as college students, drinking and guns.



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Old April 13th, 2017, 01:28 PM   #2
 
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I'm in Arizona, and I've watched it from the beginning. The kid got roughed up, went back to his car trunk, got a gun and started shooting. Looks like murder to me.
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If the facts stated in the story are correct, given both sides agree he went to his car to retrieve his firearm (after being assaulted), and since he had the option of getting into the car and removing himself from immediate danger, I suspect successfully arguing self defense will be a very difficult if not impossible feat. Guess we'll soon see.
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Could be... one article I read led me to believe the fight kinda followed him and 2 of his friends were still being beaten by a group. As always, never enough facts in these articles to make everything clear.


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I see mention made that one of the guys was shot in the back. I get the whole stand your ground thing, but someone who's back is to you and running away is not what I'd call a threat. Arguing a self-defense claim is going to be next to impossible in my eyes.

You would have thought after all these years after the Columbine shooting, bullies would know that their victims can snap at anytime and commit an act like this. Same with what happened at VA Tech.
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At 1st reading, it sounds like murder to me.

It also sounds like his friends were being assaulted. Which could possibly be how someone was shot in the back. If my friend was jumped by several guys, I wouldn't care if their back was to me when I shoot (assuming that was my only option).

But the stories do not line up at all. So, I guess I'll have to wait for the facts to play out.
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