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Old February 26th, 2017, 12:05 PM   #1
 
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so I've been shooting paper for awhile and now want some training for CCW.

I wrote this training plan and working my way thru these items. Sadly my neighborhood is changing a bit too much in the wrong direction and I'm wondering if I will have to move.

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training plan for CCW
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1. my situation
geezer age some health issues not physically fit operator type
favorite pistol ruger lc380 with galloway trigger kit
light schedule for range trips and local ranges are good
classes at local ranges are too much effort and equipment

2. mindset attitude
safety first all these items else serious injuries hospital stays
train for some level of future incidents
how to transition from shooting paper to shooting people
videos at liveleak.com clik safemode off search for robber

3. legal issues
carry CPL with gun else legal issues
when ok to shoot when ok to get involved what to do after shooting
read pdf files from second call armed citizen concealed carry
expect lots of attention from police and lawyers and media and more

4. when where why to carry
carry CPL with gun else legal issues
why is gun needed is local area not safe enough ? move soon
errands grocery store gas station library driving around car repair
watch out for gun free zones hospitals post office schools malls
doctors offices all have parking garage issues
totally avoid unstable places trouble spots protests riots
metal lockbox for storage

5. range trips
safety first gun rules
basic capability shooting paper with 2 hands 1 hand
5" groups at 7 yards medium pace
ruger lc380 DAO trigger 7lb pull 1/2" travel
activities handling load unload slide clearing jams cleaning storing
range trip ear muffs notes camera gun magazines loaders ammo

6. holster
which holster for occasional appendix carry slide right left as needed
walk semi run bend over crouch down sit get up from chair sofa in out car
does gun print thru clothes tshirt button up hoodie jacket gloves
durability for occasional carry
try nylon and kydex holsters

7. practice drawing and reholstering
use snap caps for practice drills at apartment
drawing effectively for first shot with 1 hand 2 hands
clothes jeans tshirt button up hoodie jacket gloves
standing sitting walking turning around also with car
local range has 50hr rental laser training
last step how to practice with live ammo

8. tactical
pay close attention what is happening what looks different
health issues affect focus ability mobility
how many troublemakers where are they what are they doing
engage or run determine wimp factor me vs how many troublemakers
stress adrenaline loss of fine motor skills loss of thinking ability
distraction act nervous stutter drop wallet wait for tm to look away
quick draw surprise first hit keep shooting until tm falls reload magazine
move before during or after shooting look around lower gun then call 911
10 Essential Tips for Concealed Carry Holders

9. planning scenarios
apartment door window banging breakin walking to car trash office dogs
robber nutter jihadi at grocery store gas station library restaurant
make notes from liveleak links about what happened what to focus on
clik safe mode off search for robber plenty of good and bad incidents

10. case histories on shooting scenarios

youtube channel has commentary
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsE...rvF2ImeNWh84mw

for some reason the links from liveleak.com don't post ?
add these strings to end of liveleak.com for these videos

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why not just enroll in a course and go? They'll teach you what you want/need to know, and they don't cost much?

They've got a plan ready to go.
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why not just enroll in a course and go? They'll teach you what you want/need to know, and they don't cost much?

They've got a plan ready to go.
+1 you really should enroll in a class. You'll learn a lot and be much more comfortable than working through this on your own. Good luck and stay safe!
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yes I looked at classes at the 2 big ranges near me - some health issues definitely affect my ability to attend 4-8 hour classes and shoot 250rds of ammo

there is so much info on internet for me to get the basics and that is good enough for now, maybe later I'll look into private classes

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Not sure about the ranges by you, but our ranges offer the 4-8 hour courses but also have private lessons by the hour. I'm sure if you have health issues they would be willing to work with you

A majority of gun owners want to encourage others to own guns. And I can't speak for all, but those same people are usually all for helping, teaching and training others, especially those that are newer to gun ownership. Ask around and see if they can work with you. Training is always good. But the YouTube guys aren't always as much of an expert as they claim and you can learn bad things there. And having someone else there is good because they can watch and see things that you are doing and help to correct
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why not just enroll in a course and go? They'll teach you what you want/need to know, and they don't cost much?

They've got a plan ready to go.
That works unless the trainer goes off the reservation. For legal advice get it from an attorney. Except for training mandates from the state the tactical training varies from trainer to trainer. Avoid unrealistic training/trainers, ya know the ones that have ya spin in circles before shooting. Make sure that your trainer, and attorney are respected.
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Our Sheriff gives free classes to new CCW people.

Id try an find something like that to cover some of the legal aspect.
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That works unless the trainer goes off the reservation. For legal advice get it from an attorney. Except for training mandates from the state the tactical training varies from trainer to trainer. Avoid unrealistic training/trainers, ya know the ones that have ya spin in circles before shooting. Make sure that your trainer, and attorney are respected.
so you discourage him from taking a course given by professionals?
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YZ!

Almost everyone is saying the same thing - there's no substitute for some formal training. You've assembled a pretty comprehensive list. That's a good start and perhaps great criteria for what you should seek in your training. Carrying is a big responsibility.

I learned a long time ago that if a bunch of people whose opinion you respect are all saying the same thing, there's probably something there.

Try to find an instructor who will work with your limitations. You'll be glad you did. If for no other reason (and there are a lot of them), you'll be better defendant should you ever need to use a weapon in self defense.

Good luck and stay safe!
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so you discourage him from taking a course given by professionals?
The way I read it he is encouraging him to seek professional training and avoid the unprofessional ninja types.
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+1 on a ccw class
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advice x 2

I would offer you 2 bits of advice on the subject, one based on my humble opinion, the other based on actual experience.
1) Take a course at a local shooting range...or take two or more if you have the time. There is no substitute for being prepared. I think once you get going you will really enjoy the training.
2) This is the part I have experience in. You said your Neighborhood is changing to the point you feel uneasy. That is no way to live. You do not want to live your life by running away of course, but then again you deserve to be comfortable in your own neighborhood. I would move if that is a possibility. My wife and I packed up and left when our area took a sudden turn for the worse. We had kids in middle school and grade school then and did not want them to grow up in a neighborhood and school district that was giving in to the thugs, so we HAD to go. Maybe you do not have to. Maybe you want to stick it out. But safety first means not living where the trouble is...
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so you discourage him from taking a course given by professionals?
I discourage people taking classes from idiots, ya know the ones that shoot their clients by 'accident'.
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The way I read it he is encouraging him to seek professional training and avoid the unprofessional ninja types.
Bingo!
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