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This is a discussion on New CCW??? within the CCW forums, part of the Firearm Forum category; Originally Posted by kjphilippona As i have grown older and wider, carrying my SR40c is no longer comfortable to me, i tried carrying my SP-101 ...


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Old January 5th, 2017, 09:41 AM   #31
 
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As i have grown older and wider, carrying my SR40c is no longer comfortable to me, i tried carrying my SP-101 but it also not comfortable I am not a fan boy off any particular gun manufacturer so the sky's the limit. Any recomendations would be greatly appreciated!
I have the same problem.
For me the LC9s in a light pocket holster works great.
The LCR is about the same length and width with the cylinder making it about 3/8" wider.
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That's curious - if you've had so many ammo-related malfunctions that you now totally dismiss all mini semi-autos, I'm thinking it's time to change your ammo! Not to dismiss your fondness for revolvers - I love them too; however, in a self-defense situation (and if properly equipped) the most inept individual can perform a "tap & rack" significantly quicker than the most skilled speed-strip reload. Just my 2 cents.
When you say "tap & rack", I assume you mean the "tap, rack, go" that deals with a semi-auto's FTF (Fail-To-Fire)? If so, the "most inept individual" will have fun with that, unless they've previously assessed their capability and have prepared and trained accordingly. Assuming of course, they have enough experience with the weapon, and have done the research to determine its rated reliability and ammo preference. If this has been said and done, I would say they've long graduated from ineptitude.

If you mean a simple magazine change, well, I agree it's much faster than a speed strip. No question there!
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When you say "tap & rack", I assume you mean the "tap, rack, go" that deals with a semi-auto's FTF (Fail-To-Fire)? If so, the "most inept individual" will have fun with that, unless they've previously assessed their capability and have prepared and trained accordingly. Assuming of course, they have enough experience with the weapon, and have done the research to determine its rated reliability and ammo preference. If this has been said and done, I would say they've long graduated from ineptitude.

If you mean a simple magazine change, well, I agree it's much faster than a speed strip. No question there!
However we define the drill, yes, I believe we are talking about the same maneuver. Unlike you, I do not believe the exercise is for those that have "long graduated from ineptitude". Indeed, as I recall, this maneuver was at least mentioned (if not practiced) during my preliminary NRA Pistol Safety Course. In support of your position, however, I agree that the maneuver only becomes automatic and part of muscle memory with repetitive practice. Experience vs. inexperience is the difference between "click, tap, rack, bang" and "click, WTF, [stare at gun, but hopefully do NOT look down muzzle], bang on back of slide to make sure the gun is in battery, pull down on magazine, push up on magazine, rack slide, check ground to see where live round landed [make note to self to retrieve that round], re-aim, bang".
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I reflect on past law enforcement training. For over twenty years I carried, first a 1911, then a Glock 21, both .45ACP.

Our drill was first called "Tap, Rack, Bang". That was later changed to "Tap, Rack, Go", since "Bang" was deemed not necessarily the next best automatic step (you may have to re-assess, re-acquire the target, move to cover, etc. before "Bang").

1.Tap- Hit base of mag with heel of weak hand firmly.
2. Rack- Pull slide back once all the way with weak hand, let go, and let it return to battery on its own.
3. Go- Proceed.

We did this at regular range qualifications. I still have the orange plastic .45ACP dummies we used. The Range Master randomly mixed them with live rounds in our magazines, and then we had to go through the course of fire. Click! Tap, Rack, Go.

What if that didn't clear the weapon, or there was another click? We trained for that as well.

1. Dump the existing mag.
2. Rack the slide back-and-forth with weak hand manually several times with no mag.
3. Quickly check the port IF possible.
4. Insert a NEW mag, reload, and proceed (you SHOULD have at least one extra mag!).

This is more common than one may think; either a grossly-defective partially-loaded mag, or an empty mag with defective follower not holding the slide back and allowing it to return to battery empty.

If that fails, you need a backup weapon, or an escape route...

Anyway, I think about all of the above whenever I deem it necessary to rely on a semi-auto.
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I have a Shield, Sig 239,Khar cw all in 9mm. Just bought a Sig938 and like it better for a carry gun. Did carry a Kimber ultra carry in 45 but the 938 carries better.
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I'm a wheel gun fan...so my recommendation would be the LCR in .357... I carry mine in a Desantis Nemesis pocket holster. I too tired carrying my SP101 and had a similar experience to yours.
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I'm a wheel gun fan...so my recommendation would be the LCR in .357... I carry mine in a Desantis Nemesis pocket holster. I too tired carrying my SP101 and had a similar experience to yours.
I'm also a revolver fan. My 38 LCR rides very comfy in a pocket holster. The LCR is a kicker in .38 special, and the .357 is like a mule. Stick with the 38; it is a bit lighter as well.
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The Sig 938 is a great little pistol. Good trigger, good night sights,, ready to go right outta the box, IF you like cocked and locked.

The CZ Rami is another great little pistol, comes in either safety for cocked and locked, or a decocker. The 2075D ( decocker) comes with pretty good combat night sights.

Both metal hammer fired, both VERY accurate and dependable. Both ready to go right outta the box.

I carry a CZ 75 -PCR compact or CZ 75 -P01 compact, the most comfortable, best ergonimic pistols Ive EVER owned. Also very accurate and dependable. But I was used to carrying a full size.

If you want stryker fired polymere, I cant help. Dont own any.


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I have a Shield, Sig 239,Khar cw all in 9mm. Just bought a Sig938 and like it better for a carry gun. Did carry a Kimber ultra carry in 45 but the 938 carries better.
What version 938 did you get ?
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The Sig 938 is a great little pistol. Good trigger, good night sights,, ready to go right outta the box, IF you like cocked and locked.

The CZ Rami is another great little pistol, comes in either safety for cocked and locked, or a decocker. The 2075D ( decocker) comes with pretty good combat night sights.

Both metal hammer fired, both VERY accurate and dependable. Both ready to go right outta the box.

I carry a CZ 75 -PCR compact or CZ 75 -P01 compact, the most comfortable, best ergonimic pistols Ive EVER owned. Also very accurate and dependable. But I was used to carrying a full size.

If you want stryker fired polymere, I cant help. Dont own any.


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I really like the was the CZ 75 looks but have not seen one locally so that I can hold it. I will not purchase a firearm on-line, hoping it feel as good as it looks and there is nothing cosmetically wrong
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While the sig makes a nice gun to me there toooo heavy for my pocket and they pull my pants down.
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I really like the was the CZ 75 looks but have not seen one locally so that I can hold it. I will not purchase a firearm on-line, hoping it feel as good as it looks and there is nothing cosmetically wrong
I can see your point, Im the same way really. Now that I have several CZ's though, and know what and how they are, I would buy one NIB online.

I like the decockers and feel safer carrying them versus the safety/cocked and locked. . Its impossible to go bang unless you pull the trigger fully to the rear. AD's are basically impossible.
The PCR would be the best bet since it comes with pretty good night sights. . I dont know if you are aware,, but CZ's are generally built for contracts in bunches. We end up getting the contract over runs here. So several CZ pistols of the same model can be spec'd out different. 2 of my CZ's came with tritium paint, which honestly are not for crap at night. For old eyes and an EDC I want bright as I can get. I have replaced 2 of my CZ's sights with TruGlo TFX sights which are awesome. They glow bright in total darkness.

Once you lay a CZ 75 compact of any model in your hand, the ergonomics are so darn good, its hard to put down. I was fortunate enough to get to handle my first CZ, the PCR, at my LGS. The rubber grips just lay in your hand like it was built just for you. I bought it on the spot.
Been hooked & EDC a CZ ever since. We have 4 now. Looking for #5.

If I needed another PCR or P01 , I would buy one online because they really are that hard to find. Thats a whole lot of quality pistol for around $550 bucks.

Good luck.
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I can see your point, Im the same way really. Now that I have several CZ's though, and know what and how they are, I would buy one NIB online.

I like the decockers and feel safer carrying them versus the safety/cocked and locked. . Its impossible to go bang unless you pull the trigger fully to the rear. AD's are basically impossible.
The PCR would be the best bet since it comes with pretty good night sights. . I dont know if you are aware,, but CZ's are generally built for contracts in bunches. We end up getting the contract over runs here. So several CZ pistols of the same model can be spec'd out different. 2 of my CZ's came with tritium paint, which honestly are not for crap at night. For old eyes and an EDC I want bright as I can get. I have replaced 2 of my CZ's sights with TruGlo TFX sights which are awesome. They glow bright in total darkness.

Once you lay a CZ 75 compact of any model in your hand, the ergonomics are so darn good, its hard to put down. I was fortunate enough to get to handle my first CZ, the PCR, at my LGS. The rubber grips just lay in your hand like it was built just for you. I bought it on the spot.
Been hooked & EDC a CZ ever since. We have 4 now. Looking for #5.

If I needed another PCR or P01 , I would buy one online because they really are that hard to find. Thats a whole lot of quality pistol for around $550 bucks.

Good luck.

I hope I get the chance to hold one soon, like my SIG's and HK they feel fantastic in my hand. That is the reason I purchased the HK VP9, I had no intension off purchasing another full sized 9mm. I was looking to purchase a CCW and was looking at the SIG P239 but when I held it, it was nothing like my P226 or P229 so no sale. The VP9 was sitting in the used gun case and it was $200 under MSRP so I had to hold it, the rest is history
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Well i finally made it to Gander Mtn and tried on all the compact guns they had in their display cases. Eliminated for one reason or another: Glock 43, Glock 26, Ruger LC9s, SIG P239, SIG P938. Still in the running:Kimber Micro 9mm, XDs 9mm and S&W Shield 9mm
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