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Old December 25th, 2016, 06:04 PM   #1
 
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Well . . . !@#$%^&*()!!!

For a "conservative" state, the Nebraska Supreme Court (and the agencies that pushed this to the SC) are making Hillary, Obama, Pelosi, et al, proud!
SMH. Other states are going to "no permit required", and Nebraska is going the way of Stalin, Hitlar, and other dictators.
And for those sheeple who say the answer is simple: Get a CCW.
Sorry, the Second Amendment is a RIGHT that clearly states SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED; I will NEVER get a CCW permit. A piece of paper from the government IS an infringement, and the FIRST STEP in confiscation.

https://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/neb...-vehicles-cab/



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Old December 25th, 2016, 06:14 PM   #2
 
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I notice that it is a concealed weapons charge, what is the open carry in the state. In NC if a handgun, loaded or not is concealed, that includes a case within the passenger compartment it will result in an arrest. But OC is completely legal, even loaded, NC a handgun worn on the hip openly is still considered open, even in a vehicle.

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“Nebraska Law is silent on loaded firearms in vehicles. You do have to have a permit/license valid in NE to carry a concealed firearm in or outside a vehicle. It is illegal to carry a loaded Shotgun in a vehicle under NE Game Laws. You can carry a loaded handgun in a vehicle without a permit/license if it is visible without a permit/license.” Exceptions to this are located in the cited statute (military use or instructional use).
http://www.neopencarry.org/laws

Keep in mind in the City of Omaha, Nebraska it is illegal to OC without a permit.

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In New Jersey not only must the firearm be cased but the ammunition must be cased in a separate case and both must be inacessable to the driver. If the vehicle has no trunk the case should be as far from the driver as possible as all the way in the back of the suv or van. To be safe I use a hard case for each.
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In New Jersey not only must the firearm be cased but the ammunition must be cased in a separate case and both must be inacessable to the driver. If the vehicle has no trunk the case should be as far from the driver as possible as all the way in the back of the suv or van. To be safe I use a hard case for each.
NJ is a gun hating state, that is not surprising.
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From what I am reading in the article, ANY gun within reach is now illegal, even though Nebraska is an open carry state.
Confusing? Yes.
That is why we need a Constitutional carry EVERYWHERE.
You want to carry concealed? Okay.
Misuse that right, loose it.
But don't make it hard for the good guys to carry, because the bad guys will ignore the laws anyway!
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Old December 26th, 2016, 04:39 AM   #6
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Kinda weird these anti libturd azzhats got a foothold in Nebraska.

And scary. I hope it dont spread.
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In Vermont I got my "concealed carry permit" when I turned 18, it is my driver's license. Bought my first handgun (a Ruger P89) at 21 and have been carrying ever since. Article 16 of the Vermont State constitution confirms our 2nd Amendment rights and goes farther to say that our state legislature will not infringe our rights either. Bloomberg and his pack of neardowells have been assaulting us for the last 5 years without any luck. In fact, we legalized suppressors while they were trying to get universal background checks! I don't mean to rub it in, but there are states out there that get it.
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People think of Vermont as being overly liberal, but in my experience we as a whole are Libertarian. Socially progressive and fiscally conservative with a big dose of common sense thrown in there. I'm a good example, I wrote Bernie in for president, voted for a republican governor, a democrat for lt governor and an independent for representative. I vote for the right person for the job not for any party. That is the best way to get what you want out of government in my opinion.
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Hick, I gotta ask. If you think getting a CCW is a step towards gun confiscation, what do you feel about purchasing a gun through an FFL where an actual paper trail is established? Any better? This ruling is a bunch of BS, I agree. But it really doesn't call for a "the sky is falling", "living in a Nazi state" reaction. I have spent most of my life in central Nebraska, and have recently moved toward the metro/liberal side of the state. Trust me I miss the more laid back, conservative mindset of the tri-cities area. I see that you are VERY against getting your CCW, ok, and I understand your mindset on the constitutional aspect of it, but take a minute to see the simple insurance plan you will be affording yourself if you simply obtain your CCW. Especially if you find yourself on the blue side of the state. And honestly, the sheeple, Stalin, Hitler, mindset is a way more tin foil hat mentality that the gun community really needs. We are living in good times. No need to make things difficult when they dont have to be.
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Thats kind of backwards from here in Florida...we do have permit CCW, no open carry unless you are hunting or fishing, but you can have a gun in your car as long as it is in a secure case, like the glove box, snapping holster, or the like without a CCW permit.

I hate how different states have different, off the wall laws like that. I do wish for Constitutional carry just to get the entire country on the same page.

What is even worse here are the knife laws...they are not covered here by the preemption gun laws and they differ from county to county on what is legal.
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From what I am reading in the article, ANY gun within reach is now illegal, even though Nebraska is an open carry state.
Confusing? Yes.
That is why we need a Constitutional carry EVERYWHERE.
You want to carry concealed? Okay.
Misuse that right, loose it.
But don't make it hard for the good guys to carry, because the bad guys will ignore the laws anyway!
Nothing in the ruling mentions open carry, and the charge was a concealed carry charge. The gun was concealed, and possibly within reach. Most vehicles are not that wide that a person cannot reach across to the other side of the vehicle.

IMO a vehicle is considered private property, and most states a person can carry anyway they wish on private property. Now when they step out of the vehicle onto the road they are then on public property.

Personally I feel the officer that made this arrest was a Richard head.
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This is the main reason my wife and I got a CCW. SC has both Castle doctrine and SYG laws, but they have a long laundry list of where you cannot carry a firearm. Until recently I never felt a great need have a CCW. Although I always did carriy one in my auto when legal. Now that I'm older and with the group shootings it's just a good idea. But the main reason is traveling. In most states I travel a firearm can be carried in the center console with a CCW.

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In New Jersey not only must the firearm be cased but the ammunition must be cased in a separate case and both must be inacessable to the driver. If the vehicle has no trunk the case should be as far from the driver as possible as all the way in the back of the suv or van. To be safe I use a hard case for each.
Same here in the DPRI without a CCW license........
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Hick, I gotta ask. If you think getting a CCW is a step towards gun confiscation, what do you feel about purchasing a gun through an FFL where an actual paper trail is established? Any better? This ruling is a bunch of BS, I agree. But it really doesn't call for a "the sky is falling", "living in a Nazi state" reaction. I have spent most of my life in central Nebraska, and have recently moved toward the metro/liberal side of the state. Trust me I miss the more laid back, conservative mindset of the tri-cities area. I see that you are VERY against getting your CCW, ok, and I understand your mindset on the constitutional aspect of it, but take a minute to see the simple insurance plan you will be affording yourself if you simply obtain your CCW. Especially if you find yourself on the blue side of the state. And honestly, the sheeple, Stalin, Hitler, mindset is a way more tin foil hat mentality that the gun community really needs. We are living in good times. No need to make things difficult when they dont have to be.
The form you fill out when you buy a gun stays with the dealer. After a certain # of years those forms can be destroyed. If the dealer goes out of business, they have the choice to destroy the forms or turn them over to the BATF. Thus, that form is a mere piece of paper that may or may not be in the government database.

CCWs, on the other hand, ARE in the government database w/o a doubt.

I still stand by my statement that Licensing is the first step to confiscation. Look at EVERY nation that has confiscated guns: WHAT WAS THE FIRST STEP?????????

And I also stand on the "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED" clause. That is why I hang up on the NRA every time they call; THEY are pushing CCW laws! And yes, I am a member, Endowment, even.

I have had a face-to-face conversation with Chris Cox (NRA-ILA) when he was in Grand Island a few years ago about these bad laws. His response? "We have to pass a bad law first, then clean it up."

I'm waiting . . . .

SMDH!!

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I still stand by my statement that Licensing is the first step to confiscation. Look at EVERY nation that has confiscated guns: WHAT WAS THE FIRST STEP?????????

I dont think the first step was handing out concealed carry liscenses...

I have to say you are overreacting a bit. Comparing Nebraska to Stalin and Hitler is a bit of a reach, but I do understand where you're coming from. However, right now, the constitution is not interpreted to include concealed carry necessarily.

Honestly I think thats kind of a reasonable assumption to make about what the 2nd amendment says, except that to bear means carry, and that should mean that all states should allow some form of carry constitutionally, but not necessarily ALL forms of carry. Since your state does allow open carry, they are in accordance with the 2nd amendment, at least in my opinion anyway for what that's worth. You can afterall, carry your gun legally. Looks kosher to me.

I am simply commenting on the merits of getting a concealed carry lisence here, not commenting on the silly law in the link. Which is pretty stupid

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