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Old August 29th, 2016, 05:30 PM   #31
 
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Live in KS which doesn't require notification. I will always inform out of respect to the officer.

Recently stopped in OK which is a duty to inform state. Female trooper told me if I promised not to shoot her she would make the same commitment. I had KS DL and CCP in hand with hands on wheel. She asked for ins and reg, I asked if ok to get from glove box. She sent me on my way with a recommendation to slow down.

Now that KS is a constitutional carry state I think there is a high likelihood of a weapon in most vehicles. Used to be during fall hunting season most everyone around here had a rifle or shotgun.



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Old August 29th, 2016, 08:42 PM   #32
 
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I have to keep reminding myself of the procedure if I were to be pulled over. Last time I got stopped was in the 80s......
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Old August 30th, 2016, 02:39 AM   #33
 
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I believe the police know if you have a weapon when they stop your car.Because when they run your license plate if you own a CC,permit it comes up on the computer screen.They are asking to see if you would lie about having a weapon. Just my opinion.
Not necessarily. ..
In Ohio, yes, the CCW was linked to your DMV info, so when they run the plate, they know I advance. (Imagine my daughters surprise when it popped up after she slid my wife's car into a ditch...)
In SC, the DMV doesn't get CCW information, so they do not know in advance.
It varies state to state.

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Yes in Ohio CCW permit info is linked to your driver's license.
If the plate is in your name (our computers automatically run owner info when running plates) your permit will pop up.
90+% of the permit holders I stop are not carrying. I ask them why they bothered in the first place. I suggest politely that they start carrying.
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Yes in Ohio CCW permit info is linked to your driver's license.
If the plate is in your name (our computers automatically run owner info when running plates) your permit will pop up.
90+% of the permit holders I stop are not carrying. I ask them why they bothered in the first place. I suggest politely that they start carrying.
+3, Love the suggestion.

Actually, in my mind, rights are like muscles.. if you want to keep them, exercise them!
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My sister hit a deer. As she waited for the deputy she called me then filled out all the papers. Then I drove up sister took my car and I took hers. I asked the deputy if I could have the deer. He said yes he would be happy to fill out the papers for me. Told me to get in front seat of squad car. I told him before I do I want you to know I have a ccw and I'm carrying on my waist. He said thanks for telling me.
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Old September 13th, 2016, 12:52 PM   #37
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Growing up, I was fortunate enough to have Chicago's Finest teach me early on about how to deal with the po-lice: don't tick them off and don't make them chase you!

Back then, most people respected them and life seemed simpler.

With that said, traffic stops are among the most dangerous duties for LEOs. They don't know what they're walking up to.

So today, if I'm pulled over by the cops, I do what I was always taught to do. Keep hands in plain sight and on the wheel; if it's dark, turn on the dome light; roll the window down; be polite; and ask them twice before reaching to get a license or proof of insurance.

Now, for the sake of levity, if you have not seen Chris Rock's video on how to deal with the police, you really should.

https://youtu.be/dBQtuIrgcTw
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Sorry.

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I'm in California, so no CCW.

Since there are protests about the man killed who supposedly had a permit, I would like to know what permit classes teach about proper procedure when you are stopped by a police officer.
Struggle with this post.

But I still want answers 'bout that deal. Has anybody ever figgered out why that... apparently nice fella... was shot? It kinda upset me to see the video. Just want everybody to know... in some small towns... there is unnecessay stuff like that goes on. All walks of life... all colors... races... ethnic... religious.

This is the only reason why I am asking: Anytime... a lawful gunowner is shot... wrongly... shouldn't we wait for the answer as TO WHY?

Surely... it appeared that the LEO was not trained. Or had a... Distress Syndrom. I could understand both.
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I'm in California, so no CCW.

Since there are protests about the man killed who supposedly had a permit, I would like to know what permit classes teach about proper procedure when you are stopped by a police officer.
The 16 hour CA CCW class is required to discuss the laws pertaining to the CCW. Traffic stop protocol is included, as is what to do if you shoot someone...
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start here

https://theconservativetreehouse.com...ible-hand-gun/


tell me which of you permit holders carry your gun sticking out ready to go on a traffic stop?
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start here

https://theconservativetreehouse.com...ible-hand-gun/


tell me which of you permit holders carry your gun sticking out ready to go on a traffic stop?
Me...

I open-carry... it is "legal" in 45 states... and that young man declared he had a firearm and had a permit. I carry my wallet in my front pants pocket, too.

So... what's yore point? The cop murdered him... intentionally or not… anyway you try to spin it. It was obvious... the cop was untrained... scared... was a friggin' basket-case... and should have been on school-zone-crossing patrol… or school-security detail. Thought he was gonna holler "Momma... please come get me".

The facts of this case... are not my representations. The facts should not indict the vast majority of the brave, thin-blue-liners out there. They deserve our respect. That fella dishonored the true-blues.

Hey… he got a notch on his pistol… now he can live with that notch. Many times... declared my two pistols… every time I have been stopped. Didn’t get murdered because of it… hope it don’t happen to me, neither.

chowser51... no disrespect meant... just a slight disagreement with ya. I was appalled... as were millions... video don't lie.

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The 2nd to the last time I was pulled over (1984) was on my motorcycle, in AZ. I was carrying a snub, cross-draw, OWB.
Stopped, shut-down bike, dismounted. Removed helmet, unzipped jacket so that officer (still in car) could see the gun.
Put my hands on my head and left them there.
Started a friendly conversation with the officer as he walked up.
There was 0 tension.
He took the gun, license, registration and went back to his car.
Came back with gun (unloaded), ammo, papers, ticket, and we concluded business.

Later he got quite angry when I pled not-guilty and got the ticket dismissed in traffic court.

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I meant sticking out on your lap not in a holster. My guns are always ready to go but in the holster. I'm still waiting for the final report before I pass judgement on anyone. Look at how the Freddie Gray case is turning out.

It's not about a notch on anyone's belt. It's something that haunts you forever. Even if you're 100% in the right as mine was, it still bothers me years later. I just wish everyone wasn't so quick to judge. Like what happened in Columbus recently. Media is reporting it as child MURDERED by police. Even though the child was out late committing armed robbery and drew on responding officers.
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I meant sticking out on your lap not in a holster. My guns are always ready to go but in the holster. I'm still waiting for the final report before I pass judgement on anyone. Look at how the Freddie Gray case is turning out.

It's not about a notch on anyone's belt. It's something that haunts you forever. Even if you're 100% in the right as mine was, it still bothers me years later. I just wish everyone wasn't so quick to judge. Like what happened in Columbus recently. Media is reporting it as child MURDERED by police. Even though the child was out late committing armed robbery and drew on responding officers.
Look... sorry if I misjudged the intent or nature of yore post. It may not have been plain enough fer me to understand.

Again... I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed.

Hope... no harm done.
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