This is a discussion on LCR vs LCP within the CCW forums, part of the Firearm Forum category; I've been seeing a lot of people buying the LCR lately, and I'm curious why people choose the LCR over the LCP. ?
2 more rounds, easier to conceal as it's smaller and lighter, cheaper $, longer barrel (translates to better accuracy?)
Initial price may be less but the ammo for a .380 will eat you alive (around here, now, it is twice as much as .38Sp - IF you can find it).
The real accuracy difference in the barrel length is negligible.
.38spl vs .380
Which is a LOT! If you look at the "Ballistics by the inch" that Iowegan posted, you find that the .380 in a 3" barrel is about 900fps with a 85Gr bullet. The .38Sp. with a 135Gr in a 1.8" barrel is about the same velocity (within 30 fps). That's almost 40% heavier at virtually the same velocity.
Second item is if the LCR just goes click, you just pull the trigger again.
When the LCP debtued, I thought I had to have it, but 2 things changed my mind:
1. Primarily, I rented a P3AT and was adamant that I wanted no handgun which was so uncomfortable to shoot.
2. I agree with those who feel that .380 ACP is a bit underpowered.
Additionally, I have a 642 that I can shoot well and comfortably with +P ammo. Reportedly, the LCR is more comfortable has won converts from the 642.
From a ballistic standpoint, I'll take a .38 over a .380.
In a small CQB gun I'll take the reliability of a revolver, especially a concealed hammer revolver, over an auto. Modern autos are very reliable in most circumstances, but the revolver has no slide to jam if it is obstructed by clothing, walls, body parts etc.
Revolver hides better in a pocket for me with an obvious bulge, but no obvious outline. The auto's less rounded profile seems to create a more conspicuous outline.
A few points to consider, and yes, I own(ed) both.
First, I much prefer +p .38s out of a snub than a .380 out of a mousegun. The reason is obvious: Power. Look at this Heavy .38 Special +P Ammo - 158 gr. L.S.W.C.H.P. --G.C. (1,000fps/M.E. 351 ft.lbs.) versus 380 Auto +P Ammo - 90 gr. Jacketed Hollow Point (1200fps M.E. 288 ft. lbs. The difference might not seem like much, but I consider the extra weight and 75 Lbs of energy to be a big asset when such diminutive cartridges are considered.
Second is reliability. "Five for sure" is better than "7 maybe."
Third is controllability and control. The LCP and LCR both have DOA actions, but in rapid fire, the .38 is easier to hit with, IMHO.
Also, consider the ammo cost, availability and ease of obtaining quality practice ammo. Realitically, the snub is good for range sessions and the LCP, is just too small and expensive to practice a lot with. And practice is important. As a handloader, I make practice ammo for the .38 for $5 a box, versus $10 for the .380.
Then consider that you can choose an infinite number of bullets/powders/loads from which to choose without worrying about reliability. If it fits, it ships. The LCP, on the other hand is ammo dependent for reliability.
Oh and try running the LCP dirty. I keep all my autos spotless, but the revos are more forgiving of neglect. So if you go to the range and then have to carry straight away, the revo will still go bang. The auto might not funtion reliably when dirty.
The LCR has not been recalled, but the LCP has.
I could go on and on, but why. The LCR is the better tool for all but crotch carry.
Depends on the application which is better. Revolvers can take more abuse and still function properly, while autos need constant care. For example, I have a SP101 that gets abused, stuffed between the mattress, thrown in the car console, stuffed in the glove box, taken mountain biking, hiking, getting soaked (from hiking and biking) etc, and I don't have to worry about dirt/grime buildup which can result in stove piping, failure to feed, etc. The only real condition that I have to worry about it the ammo's primer going bad resulting in a click instead of a bang, and if that happens, pull the trigger again, etc.
I also recommend revolvers for novice firearm owners. This is because the mechanical operation is much easier to understand, care and maintenance is minimal, and malfunctions are easier to correct. I get very nervous when I see a novice trying to clear a stove pipe on an auto, especially when the pistol had successfully chambered a round, but failed to close.
There is also the mental stimulation of shooting a large caliber revolver single action. That Click-Boom, Click-Boom excites me.
On the otherside, having more rounds has something to say too. e.g. 5 shot revolver vs a 17 rnd 9mm auto. There is a reason Police do not carry revolvers anymore.
Good points, but I guess personal preference and application varies for everyone. My normal CC is my Glock 26. G26 has many advantages over the LCP and IMO, the only LCR vs G26 debate would be the revolver vs pistol arguement. My G26 has been more reliable than my GP100, the G26 has well more than enough accuracy for CC, and 9mm vs .38spl is extremely comperable w/ the slight edge to the 9mm. So for me, the only time I take the LCP over the G26 is when concealability is of utmost importance, and for those applications the LCP would work better than the LCR, IMO.
Like I said, for me the LCR just seemed kind of a 'why?' gun, but after reading the posts I can see why some prefer it.
I am seriously considering replacing my SP101 with a LCR.
I'm kind of at that same crossroads. I pocket carry most of the time and the SP has been a faithful friend. I have looked at the LCR and although the weight would be nice I am having trouble getting past the looks of the thing. I saw one in the display case this week next to a S&W 442 and the Smith had a lot more appeal to me and was only about $50 more (both new) and 1 1/2 oz heavier. I have found in the past when I start waffling about a new gun I don't purchase.