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Old December 19th, 2016, 09:40 PM   #31
 
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The paperwork in the first post looks a lot like the current law, but it is

stamped "WITHDRAWN".

I wouldn't hold out a lot of hope for a fair permit system in NJ.

One proposal I heard of was 1200$ a year.



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?? $100 per year?? Doez any stats have a fee higher than that?
There are few states in a deeper hole. NJ is broke.

The problem with even applying for a carry permit in NJ, is that if the application is declined, you have to put that on any/every firearms application, anywhere you apply. You might as well be dodging child care payments, have an arrest/conviction for domestic violence, and maybe be on the pedophile list.

The solution to carry permits in NJ is to leave the state. It's a great feeling.
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There are few states in a deeper hole. NJ is broke.

The problem with even applying for a carry permit in NJ, is that if the application is declined, you have to put that on any/every firearms application, anywhere you apply. You might as well be dodging child care payments, have an arrest/conviction for domestic violence, and maybe be on the pedophile list.

The solution to carry permits in NJ is to leave the state. It's a great feeling.
I agree about leaving the state. You could not pay me to live there even though I do spend my summers at the shore house. I come home to PA afterwards!! I feel naked without a sidearm. If I were to move it would have to be someplace friendly to gun owners and have a beach!!
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There are few states in a deeper hole. NJ is broke.

The problem with even applying for a carry permit in NJ, is that if the application is declined, you have to put that on any/every firearms application, anywhere you apply. You might as well be dodging child care payments, have an arrest/conviction for domestic violence, and maybe be on the pedophile list.

The solution to carry permits in NJ is to leave the state. It's a great feeling.
QFT, brother. And when you get to Florida,(or almost any other state)

spend your money there, instead of pissing it away in Hell Jersey.
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QFT, brother. And when you get to Florida,(or almost any other state)

spend your money there, instead of pissing it away in Hell Jersey.
I have literally come within fractions of a mile of running out of gas and been on the verge of dehydration while driving thru New Jersey due to my stubborn refusal to contribute 1 dime to their economy.
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I have literally come within fractions of a mile of running out of gas and been on the verge of dehydration while driving thru New Jersey due to my stubborn refusal to contribute 1 dime to their economy.
I was raised on a small farm in upstate NY, and lived for way too long in NJ.

Both states are as run exactly the same, as they are dragged down by entitlements, bad politics/liberals, the combined effects of which mean bad.
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I was raised on a small farm in upstate NY, and lived for way too long in NJ.

Both states are as run exactly the same, as they are dragged down by entitlements, bad politics/liberals, the combined effects of which mean bad.
You're mostly correct - downstate NY is a cesspool of liberalism; however, outside of the urban areas, the rest of NY is like another planet.
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why i never want to see christie hold any national office: as governor of nj he could have done alot for peaceable gun owners, but he is consistently a pandering coward. now christie is sucking up to trump looking for a cabinet position. i hope the donald can see through christie.
YUP. And it looks like Trump seen it.

Christie is a worm.
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Not a chance
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Like many others have posted "I will believe it when I see it". NJ politicians will never go for CCW. Hell, it takes an act of God to just get a permit to purchase a handgun. From what I have heard, just to make a handgun purchase; personal interviews, 3 references check, spousal interview, interviewing of neighbors, FBI and state fingerprinting, etc. YOU GOTTA BE KIDDING ME! Again, this is just to make a handgun purchase......

When I was stationed (Military) in NJ back in the 80's, there was a NJ politician that said he had a plan for NJisns to buy as many handguns as they wanted. His plan was that you purchased your handgun and had to shoot it at the same range, cleaned it in the designated area, and than checked it for storage it at the range in a big vault. You would never allowed be allowed to remove the firearm from the facility.

Who thinks up this crap? Even retired NJ LEO's have to jump through hoops to get a CCW in NJ. And than, a condition of their CCW is riddled with restrictions.

So, in closing, CCW ain't going to happen in NJ.
I guess your second hand stories make you an expert?

Fees for the NOT NECESSARY CCW in Arizona are $50 for 5 years. Training, firing proficiency, testing, BI and fingerprinting not included in first application/approval.

For all you experts on NJ Government, since 2001 the State Assembly has averaged about 60% DEMOCRAT, 2/3 (67%) required to override a veto. The State Senate has averaged about the same. Because of the lopsided opinions of the politicians from the northern part of the state, do you really think its gonna be easy for a Republican governor to get laws passed when the other political party with a progressive liberal, good ole boy, self interested membership carries a veritable veto override majority?

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Not being from NJ, but having to pass through this non-American state on my way to NY (another foreign country) when I go to visit my very elderly mother, I would love to see concealed carry with reasonable reciprocity become the law there. But I doubt it will happen. What is the most likely way that NJ, and NY and some other anti-gun states as well, will get legal concealed carry? I think it is when national reciprocity becomes law, and a state concealed carry license will be valid in all 50 states just as a driver's license is now. Once states like NJ are forced, by Federal law, to honor licenses from other states, the pressure to allow their own citizens to also get a license will be truly intense.

There are other less tangible but also valuable consequences of a national reciprocity law. One might be that Gov. Cuomo of NY will see his head explode when he has to honor gun carrying NRA members in his dysfunctional state.
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Not being from NJ, but having to pass through this non-American state on my way to NY (another foreign country) when I go to visit my very elderly mother, I would love to see concealed carry with reasonable reciprocity become the law there. But I doubt it will happen. What is the most likely way that NJ, and NY and some other anti-gun states as well, will get legal concealed carry? I think it is when national reciprocity becomes law, and a state concealed carry license will be valid in all 50 states just as a driver's license is now. Once states like NJ are forced, by Federal law, to honor licenses from other states, the pressure to allow their own citizens to also get a license will be truly intense.

There are other less tangible but also valuable consequences of a national reciprocity law. One might be that Gov. Cuomo of NY will see his head explode when he has to honor gun carrying NRA members in his dysfunctional state.
NJ politicians, demonrats being in the majority, would still fight like he** to restrict, one way or the other. Most probably they would jack up fees so high, that most people couldn't afford it. Good thought, though, keep your fingers crossed.
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Even with a Supreme Court decision saying that Washington, DC was behaving unconstitutionally does not appear to have changed the situation there. Perhaps everyone is being unrealistically optimistic about the possibilities of "national reciprocity". I'm one of those!
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