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Old December 28th, 2015, 06:36 AM   #31
 
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Since you have t have a concealed carry permit to open carry, I really don't see the point.



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Old December 28th, 2015, 10:48 AM   #32
 
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Murder and crime rates have gone down steadily the last 20 years. CCW permits being issued in a lot of states in the last bunch of years. Correlation?
https://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/...last-50-years/ I like and agree with what the one poster said, "Idiotic laws are rising in response…"

What, Alaska, Vermont, Arizona all have 'no permit needed' to carry concealed. Who will follow? Surprised that Texas, Wyoming, Montana, Kentucky haven't already.
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It is the logical step in maintaining our 2A rights. Not that I plan on practicing open carry, but it should have never been an issue in the first place. And creating some caveat to a law that allows "Opt-Out" seems kind of stupid to me personally on a law like this, but it is what it is I guess.
Not stupid at all......it's about "rights", both yours and others. You have the "right" to open carry, but others also have the "right" to not allow it on their private property. Your rights can't infringe on theirs. And theirs is NOT infringing on yours, because you have the option to go elsewhere. Same as the "no shoes no service" sign. You surely have the right to go barefoot, but I also have the right to not let you in my store that way
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Not stupid at all......it's about "rights", both yours and others. You have the "right" to open carry, but others also have the "right" to not allow it on their private property. Your rights can't infringe on theirs. And theirs is NOT infringing on yours, because you have the option to go elsewhere. Same as the "no shoes no service" sign. You surely have the right to go barefoot, but I also have the right to not let you in my store that way
I agree. Right to keep and bear arms, right to private property. It's a win-win as far as I'm concerned. People forget that private property rights are fundamental to our way of life.
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This wind was blowing hard at my back as I left church today, causing some printing in what would otherwise be very discreet wardrobe.

It will be nice to have the general public more comfortable with licensed carriers, generally.

I was at a fall festival recently, strolling around the vendor booths. I and another guy lightly bumped into each other. We each set a hand on the other in a friendly way. He happened to set his hand on my P95.

In the noise of the crowd, he judged it safe enough to ask, "are you packing?"

I said, "maybe."

He said, "either that, or you have a really hard azz." He was entirely friendly about all of this.

No one got hurt, no shots were fired the entire festival, etc.

There's no law against "printing". This is an internet fiction.
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I agree. Right to keep and bear arms, right to private property. It's a win-win as far as I'm concerned. People forget that private property rights are fundamental to our way of life.
I have some friends who are welcome to carry in my house. There are some who I won't let carry in my house because I don't think they carry safely. My house, my rules.
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"If" we get it here in Florida.............it's a situational thing.Open when I need it,concealled the rest of the time.

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The way I see it is it is nice not to worry so much about the wind blowing you shirt to allow someone see your weapon. I don't see a lot of advantage to OC except for convenience. Be thankful for the OC as it does have advantages sometimes.
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What, Alaska, Vermont, Arizona all have 'no permit needed' to carry concealed. Who will follow? Surprised that Texas, Wyoming, Montana, Kentucky haven't already.
Wyoming does. There are 7 constitutional carry states

Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Kansas, Maine, Vermont, Wyoming (for residents)

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Not stupid at all......it's about "rights", both yours and others. You have the "right" to open carry, but others also have the "right" to not allow it on their private property.
Not in Alabama, thank God. I have the right to decide whether or not to carry firearms, and I have the right to do so in almost any place that I'm otherwise legally able to enter. Alabama Supreme Court Overturns State Open Carry Ban
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when the passed open carry here in Mo., I expected to see a flurry of people with AR's, AK's and the "pistol" versions of each. that never happened. the only open carry I've ever seen was at open carry 'rally" (that was 6 people open carrying at an outside table at Chuck-a-Burger). (I guess they proved some kind of point?)
the good thing about open carry(with CCW permit) is that I can carry a big revolver or duty pistol and as long as the shirt or coat covers it, I'm good.
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I conceal carry in a state that has open carry. I very seldom see anyone in my state open carry.

My take, I don't want that thug to know I have a gun.
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Not in Alabama, thank God. I have the right to decide whether or not to carry firearms, and I have the right to do so in almost any place that I'm otherwise legally able to enter. Alabama Supreme Court Overturns State Open Carry Ban
From the article you cited, I think you may be extrapolating a bit. The law was vague and carried no punishment. Since it carried no punishment the law was overturned. The effect of the ruling apparently makes legal open carry anywhere, since there is no law forbidding it. But the court did NOT overturn the law because it violated Second Amendment protections. Of course, I'm basing all of this on a news article. Having read enough ignorant news articles, I could be wrong in all of this. But it seems the legislature could impose limitations on where you could carry tomorrow and this law would have no effect on it as the ruling wasn't really about guns and where you can carry them but about poorly framed laws and due process.
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The court's rationale is immaterial, the effect is that individual rights are strengthened. Future legislation is likewise immaterial; a new law could always come around and infringe on any right regardless of what any court previously ruled. That's what laws do. All it takes is the right kind of law.
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Here in Ohio we have had open carry for a while. When I was getting my CCL our instructor, who had a 1911 on his belt, said "Here's what you're paying $100 and spending 12 hours for...he then pulled his shirt out of his pants and let it fall over
his 1911.

He then tucked his shirt back in and said "this is FREE"...pulled his shirt back out over the gun and said "this costs you $100 and 12 hours."

Obviously not totally that simple and cut and dried, but certainly made me shake my head.

Some of the national media was making a big deal about it on tonight's news programs.
They were also making a big deal about how many places in Texas were saying NO to open carry.
Didn't hear any of them comment about how most of the places had no problem with concealed carry.
Also did mention how Texas was actually very late to the party and that open carry was already in effect in 35 states.

As for me...I conceal carry. Why not...I paid $100 and spent 12 hours to be able to! :-)

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