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Old December 25th, 2015, 04:13 PM   #16
 
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For one it will make my revolver hunting much easier. I hunt on public land and after studying the rule book (which says I can revolver hunt but not plainly), calling the national forest office and being told no I can't revolver hunt, calling the game warden who had to call the national forest service for an answer and said yes I can(I held on to that voicemail as long as I could) I still only found that I can in fact revolver hunt but got no answer to if I have to conceal until its time to kill an animal or what.

Like I said in my original post, we've all heard the arguments for and against using the right to open carry in public. I am a tall guy and wear shirts marked tall and they still don't cover the muzzle of my SP when in an oustide the waistband holster. That makes it hard to carry concealed.

While I'm happy for the gun rights win, it really seems to be turning into more rules to learn and more potential to accidentally unknowingly break the law.



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If Florida ever becomes OC, I will continue trying to conceal, but with less worry perhaps, about printing or accidental exposure. I might go from front pocket carry to an OSW holster, for the sake of a quicker, easier draw. (I don't know how anyone can carry ISW, but that's just me.)
I call it, "Discreet Carry"... Impossible to define. Therefore, impossible to enforce as a law.
I would like my state to acknowledge that I have a God given right to OC, but to actually do so sounds like (asking for) trouble, to me.
My biggest fear with OC would be, a "bad guy" going for my weapon before I even knew he was there... Standing at a urinal, for instance.
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Texas open carry laws- everyone is opting out!

Why carry if you fear a criminal will disarm you. You may want to practice better situational awareness.

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In Virginia, you do not need a permit to open carry. You do need one to conceal. I always wonder when I see an open carrier in Virginia if the carrier had attempted to get a CHP and didn't make it through the vetting process.
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Why carry if you fear a criminal will disarm you. You may want to practice better situational awareness.
You know a better way to make sure you don't get disarmed while "taking care of business" at a urinal?

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My biggest fear with OC would be, a "bad guy" going for my weapon before I even knew he was there... Standing at a urinal, for instance.
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I'll open carry cause it's just more convenient and it's my Right. As far as business is concerned, it's their Right to choose as well and I'm good with that. However I never like to do business with Crime Spree zones so I don't even go to them nor give them my money. I'm pretty sure those places are mentioned in many county and state jails so the convicts educate each other on the Crime Spree zones. Where the unarmed victims shop and leave their weapons in cars ready for breaking in. You can visually get a pretty good idea just watching parking lots when a car pulls up and the driver goes through the motion of removing their weapon and stashing it in the car someplace.

It's a new day for Open Carry in Texas and I'll be at the Alamo to celebrate open carrying for the first time in over a 100 years.
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I'll open carry cause it's just more convenient and it's my Right. As far as business is concerned, it's their Right to choose as well and I'm good with that. However I never like to do business with Crime Spree zones so I don't even go to them nor give them my money.
I absolutelt agree with you. The only provlem with that is that I gotta ear and basically all grocery store chains have opted out. I believe most are still allowing concealed so its not the end of the world. I have to shop somewhere though!
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Why carry if you fear a criminal will disarm you. You may want to practice better situational awareness.
All the practice and training in the world will not make you invincible. Every situation is different. Even highly trained LEOs get killed with their own weapons from time to time.
I guarantee there is someone out there more capable of taking your weapon from you than you are of keeping it, no matter how "aware" you are.
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I absolutelt agree with you. The only provlem with that is that I gotta ear and basically all grocery store chains have opted out. I believe most are still allowing concealed so its not the end of the world. I have to shop somewhere though!
FYI, Brookshire Bros Grocery store chain in East Texas has announced it's policy to ALLOW citizens to OPEN CARRY or Conceal Carry, they said it's up to the citizens to choose....not them. I found out cause my Son is one of their Store Directors and signage is being issued saying so.

Here is my 30.07 Compliant shirt for concealed carry in stores that opt out and ban Open Carry on their property..


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FYI, Brookshire Bros Grocery store chain in East Texas has announced it's policy to ALLOW citizens to OPEN CARRY or Conceal Carry, they said it's up to the citizens to choose....not them. I found out cause my Son is one of their Store Directors and signage is being issued saying so.

Here is my 30.07 Compliant shirt for concealed carry in stores that opt out and ban Open Carry on their property..

Did you fabricate that or is someone actually making those?

I live in Kentucky, so open carry for everyone, concealed carry with permit. Also, without permit one can stash a gun in any factory installed compartment in a vehicle, not just the glove compartment.

I personally prefer (and prefer for others) the concealed carry. It makes me nervous when I see someone walking around with a full size pistol in a holster with no retention strap or in a cheap holster that it looks like the gun could fall out of. I'd rather not know how easy it would be for someone to take it from them.
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Did you fabricate that or is someone actually making those?

I live in Kentucky, so open carry for everyone, concealed carry with permit. Also, without permit one can stash a gun in any factory installed compartment in a vehicle, not just the glove compartment.

I personally prefer (and prefer for others) the concealed carry. It makes me nervous when I see someone walking around with a full size pistol in a holster with no retention strap or in a cheap holster that it looks like the gun could fall out of. I'd rather not know how easy it would be for someone to take it from them.
It was posted by a OCT Member so I think they may actually make and sell on their website store. If not it's not too difficult to make one at home from Hobby Lobby craft supplies.

Either way I'm going to get one for laughs.
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I am a fan of CC myself. Open carry just has too many issues in day to day carry... now on weekends coming back from a hunting trip or something... it would be ince to be able to let it hang out... just for convienience more than anything.
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This wind was blowing hard at my back as I left church today, causing some printing in what would otherwise be very discreet wardrobe.

It will be nice to have the general public more comfortable with licensed carriers, generally.

I was at a fall festival recently, strolling around the vendor booths. I and another guy lightly bumped into each other. We each set a hand on the other in a friendly way. He happened to set his hand on my P95.

In the noise of the crowd, he judged it safe enough to ask, "are you packing?"

I said, "maybe."

He said, "either that, or you have a really hard azz." He was entirely friendly about all of this.

No one got hurt, no shots were fired the entire festival, etc.
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I am a fan of CC myself. Open carry just has too many issues in day to day carry... now on weekends coming back from a hunting trip or something... it would be ince to be able to let it hang out... just for convienience more than anything.
Yep. that's it in a nutshell.
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It is the logical step in maintaining our 2A rights. Not that I plan on practicing open carry, but it should have never been an issue in the first place. And creating some caveat to a law that allows "Opt-Out" seems kind of stupid to me personally on a law like this, but it is what it is I guess.
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