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Old January 4th, 2017, 02:24 PM   #121
 
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I pocket carried my Glock 33 for years until one day when it felt like it wasn't going to be enough. I just left work and was leaving the station. It was a busy day. The next shift was already tied up on calls. I keep my portable radio on when I drive home. They put out a call of a car with four males in it pointing a gun or guns at kids walking home.
Well of course I can see it coming up the side street so I drive at it and block the street and radio in that I have it. Someone said they were breaking away and headed my way.
I exit the car and point my 33 with only ten rounds total at the driver and identify myself and tell him to shut off the car. All four people instantly threw their hands up so God was watching out for me that day.

I just felt underarmed with four guys, a car and at least one reported gun against my ten rounds. There was only one gun in the car. Imagine if all four had a gun. Since then I brought my 32 back as my off duty with the 33 doing back up duty.

If Glock releases a new gen without fingergrooves, I'll be buying two new 32s to serve as my off duty weapons.
Jesus H. You made out OK. Thanks for the service. My new full size RAP 45 is my new carry gun. It still conceals OK.



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Old January 4th, 2017, 09:06 PM   #122
 
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For many years I carried a full-size 1911 (with two extra mags). I got tired of the gun dictating what I had to wear, and what I did. Yup, I carried the 1911 in IWB holsters, fanny packs, etc., but there were times where it just stayed in the truck.

I started looking for a more carry-friendly solution. I wound up with a used LCR .357, and have never looked back. Paired with a set of Hogue Bantam/Boot grips (minimized grips that don't print or snag on clothing) in an old-school Bianchi suede IWB belt clip holster (originally sized for a S&W Mod. 66 2 1/2 inch) strong-side, the combo is very lightweight and virtually unnoticeable. I forget it's on sometimes, and can wear it with shorts and t-shirt in summer. I carry two speed strips in the right rear pants pocket for reloads. The strips flex enough to be comfortable when sitting, etc.

Undergunned? Maybe, but it's better than leaving the primary CCW back at the truck. Speaking about the truck; I have a Mossberg 500A 12GA 18" barrel behind the seat with 100 rnds. 00-buck as secondary.
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Am I alone in this shift to the larger firearms?

Nope, but some of us have come back around full circle and decided not to get to whacked out with the paranoia. After that shooting out in San Bernardino California I went through the whole process myself leading up to almost buying a Kel-Tech PLR-16 for my backpack that I always carry because I'm a walker. And it's perfectly legal to without a Fed stamp.

Never did but got back into semi-automatics and went through several before I ended up back with my front pocket revolver. I'm not giving into the fear anymore, yeah anything is possible out here and yeah it's happening more frequently but I'm still not getting sucked into it all. If I do I'll end up never leaving the house.

And there is only one gun I wish I could truly carry anyway and that's a saw-off auto shotgun. (20 gauge for less recoil) Anything else is just for the local junkies and to get home from the grocery store with the 10-20 lbs on my back. I was pegged the moment I moved into my neighborhood, of course now I got my carry permit and the local cops know my walking routes. So I do feel better out there.

Keep situational awareness in mind and try not to put yourselves into vulnerable situations. I won't even shop Wallyworld from late afternoon on anymore and my mall days are long gone. Terrorist for the most part are looking for carnage in numbers the real dangers for most of us are the lone wolf nut-jobs out here and they are roaming everywhere out here in America.

Better than 1/2 in America are criminals, druggies and nut-jobs now.
Two years ago in my area at one of the local grocery stores, a 27 year old girl cased the parking lot looking for a vulnerable woman she later told the cops. She followed a 53 year old woman into the store and stab her multiple times in the neck and face in one of the frozen food isles, dead on the spot.

I've been in that store a few times since that happen and the employees are still on edge, you can see it in their faces. We got the nut-jobs in my area crawling out of the woodwork.
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I have a fs Canik P120 (think CZ SP01)on my hip as I type. 40+oz empty and 20 rounds of 9mm, one extra 19 rd mag.
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[QUOTE=mndoggie;1860752]Very interesting information. I have an LCP but I lately I carry it only when absolutely nothing else is concealable. I've been carrying my larger more accurate firearms for the reasons listed in this article.

American Rifleman | Keefe Report: What's In Your Holster?

Estimates indicate nearly 13 million Americans have concealed-carry permits. Why each of those armed citizens chose to go through whatever process was necessary in their jurisdictions was a personal decision, but one that reflects making up their minds to be responsible for their own personal safety. In light of terrorist attacks at home and around the world, more and more Americans are choosing to arm themselves—note the record number of NICS checks on “Black Friday” this year. .


I carry my SR1911 most of the time, in really hot weather, I carry
a compact 9MM pistol. But the 9 has to be accurate out to at least
50 feet. In a street or parking lot situation, an LCP would be like taking
a slingshot to a gunfight.

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The explosion in popularity of small, light, thin concealable .380 ACP pistols—guns in the Ruger LCP class—indicates that many armed citizens were concerned principally with a close encounter with a criminal attacker. Such guns can be fired at arm’s length, obviously, but they are not intended for the 50-yard X-ring at Camp Perry. Generally, they are suited to engaging a threat at close-quarters-battle distances.

But recent attacks by homicidal maniacs have changed the psychology of why many citizens choose to arm themselves for their personal safety. No longer is it simply a matter of your money or your life. .
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Defending oneself from a thug who wants your wallet at the ATM is a different matter altogether defending yourself from an attack from a mass murderer, whether motivated by a deranged mind or flawed, perverted interpretation of faith. Simply put, that pocket .380 may not be enough gun. That is why we are seeing increased interest in slightly larger 9 mm or .45 ACP pistols with better triggers, better sights and, sometimes, slightly more sight radius amongst firearm buyers.

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A gun with sufficient power to stop a threat and with sights and a trigger good enough to accurately place rounds on target across a courtyard or room is requisite. With possible engagement distances opening up and the potential need to stop multiple attackers, what's in your holster?


Am I alone in this shift to the larger firearms?


I also carry an SR1911. My backup is an LCP. But, using the LCP in a parking lot or other large area would be like taking a slingshot to a gunfight.
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I carry my SR1911 most of the time, in really hot weather, I carry
a compact 9MM pistol.
It's easy to claim a pocket pistol inadequate but one can make a legitimate claim that a 1911 or compact 9mm is less adequate when compared to say a G-23. Capacity has to factor into it when one decides to carry a "big" gun.
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Agree re: the LCP. I sold mine off, after deciding it was not even worth carrying if needed in SD situation, unless they were really up close. Never could get accurate with it past 5 yards really. So carrying 9mm or above, whichever fits my mood, outfit or danger level.


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I have pretty much gone back to full size 1911's for carry, with the exception that I MAY be carrying the DW Guardian .38 Super on certain days. Used to carry the "pocket" snub nose for many years, but those days are gone.
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I carry a glock with 15 rounds, but i have to say, in a typical mass murder situation where the attacker is armed with a long gun, and lots of ammo, im gonna try to book it out of there. Being outgunned is not fun. Maybe id use my gun to cover my own way out but thats about it. Multiple gunmen and engaging at long distance? Nope. Im not a soldier, i have no plans to go to war. My gun is my last resort when other more sensible plans go awry
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My EDC,pistols are .44 Special, .38 SPL+P's,.357 Magnums revolvers & 9mm,40's Automatics.I don't carry my 1911's ,my choice. In the summer I pocket carry my ,380's & .38 snubbies.

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I am in this category. I am in the process of replacing my LCR with a Ruger american compact. 29oz doesn't bother me as much as not being ready. My wife and I (okay she, but I borrow when I need to) have both an LCP and a P938, but when feasible, I like something that fits my hand better because I will shoot it better.
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GONRA sez all you Rambos should get a Supressed Vector UZI,
install a 2X red dot site on the top plate, develop subsonic ammo.
(147gn. FMJ bullets, 4.1-4.2 grains 231 powder, 1.118 inch OAL,
Winchester Small Pistol primers).
Nitrided steel receiver will never "wear out" (a Family Heirloom)
and even Olde Men can get off 3 aimed "3 shot bursts" in about 1 second.

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GONRA sez all you Rambos should get a Supressed Vector UZI,
install a 2X red dot site on the top plate, develop subsonic ammo.
(147gn. FMJ bullets, 4.1-4.2 grains 231 powder, 1.118 inch OAL,
Winchester Small Pistol primers)
Nitrided steel receiver will never "wear out (a Family Heirloom)
and even Olde Men can get off 3 aimed "3 shot bursts" in about 1 second.
I'm always nervous about advice given by a person who refers to himself in the third person or a made up name....
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I usually carry my Shield with 7+1 and an 8 rd magazine in my back pocket. I -occasionally carry my CZC PCR Protek-1 with 14+1 and a spare but like others, it was so uncomfortable that I often would end up leaving it at home. I carry it now only in winter with heavy clothes so I can carry it OWB. I have a truck gun as well which is in a biometric safe and has a relatively inexpensive Canik TP9V2 with 19 rounds and a spare 18 round magazine. My goal is to use my Shield to be able to make it to my truck for either a quick getaway or for more firepower. Is this realistic? I don't know but this way at least I'm always armed & have a chance.
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Very interesting information. I have an LCP but I lately I carry it only when absolutely nothing else is concealable. I've been carrying my larger more accurate firearms for the reasons listed in this article.

American Rifleman | Keefe Report: What's In Your Holster?

Estimates indicate nearly 13 million Americans have concealed-carry permits. Why each of those armed citizens chose to go through whatever process was necessary in their jurisdictions was a personal decision, but one that reflects making up their minds to be responsible for their own personal safety. In light of terrorist attacks at home and around the world, more and more Americans are choosing to arm themselves–note the record number of NICS checks on “Black Friday” this year. .
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The explosion in popularity of small, light, thin concealable .380 ACP pistols–guns in the Ruger LCP class–indicates that many armed citizens were concerned principally with a close encounter with a criminal attacker. Such guns can be fired at arm’s length, obviously, but they are not intended for the 50-yard X-ring at Camp Perry. Generally, they are suited to engaging a threat at close-quarters-battle distances.

But recent attacks by homicidal maniacs have changed the psychology of why many citizens choose to arm themselves for their personal safety. No longer is it simply a matter of your money or your life. .
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Defending oneself from a thug who wants your wallet at the ATM is a different matter altogether defending yourself from an attack from a mass murderer, whether motivated by a deranged mind or flawed, perverted interpretation of faith. Simply put, that pocket .380 may not be enough gun. That is why we are seeing increased interest in slightly larger 9 mm or .45 ACP pistols with better triggers, better sights and, sometimes, slightly more sight radius amongst firearm buyers.

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A gun with sufficient power to stop a threat and with sights and a trigger good enough to accurately place rounds on target across a courtyard or room is requisite. With possible engagement distances opening up and the potential need to stop multiple attackers, what's in your holster?


Am I alone in this shift to the larger firearms?

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my carry piece for years has been and will be a 9mm shield, it is, with the right ammo powerful enough for most any need I feel. I have lately been leaving it in the safe when I go to the range to gain more skill in my new Ruger American 9mm. It is my home defense piece. At least here in the PNW, most of the year we at least need a rain jacket and with my build and rig, it is not hugely obvious that I am carrying, but, I am very confident I could end any situation with this piece. I don't foresee myself giving up my shield though, just too many situations where a smaller rig is better.
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