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Old November 14th, 2015, 10:51 AM   #16
 
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Cell phone.

I always want to be the first person to call 911 if I ever have to shoot - or even display - my weapon. If you're the first to call, you get to frame the situation for the police. If you have to ask a bystander to call, what you'll probably get is "Some dude just shot another dude.", in which case you'll spend the next month or more trying to convince the DA that you were the victim.

IF you have to shoot (or even just draw and display your gun), immediately call 911 and tell them "Somebody just tried to rob/assault/kill me and I shot them (or pulled out my gun)." That establishes you as the victim and any subsequent calls will be seen with that in mind.

I should emphasize that even if you don't shoot, but manage to scare off your attacker, you should call the police (unless you're in a very gun-hostile jurisdiction). A few years ago, a fellow in Portland scared off an attacker by drawing and displaying a gun. The attacker was angry about being threatened, so he called 911 and told the operator that "some guy" had threatened him with a gun. The police found and arrested the victim, who then spent over a month clearing his name. The would-be attacker was never charged with anything.

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Jim...these are great points because Law Enforcement will respond to the first caller and their statement!

We went through a situation a little over a year ago where my wife was the 9-1-1 caller (on an 'outside' situation) and when the person whom the 9-1-1 call was on tried to file a complaint...the original 9-1-1 call gave weight to my wife's explanation of the situation! It was regarding the safety of a child...so the police, CPS, and the prosecutor's office were all involved...my wife's 9-1-1 call carried weight as the call was recorded as she witnessed the events were on-going as she was on the line with dispatch...she was able to give a play-by-play as the events unfolded...and one cannot lie on the tape very easily during those types of calls.
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Jim...these are great points because Law Enforcement will respond to the first caller and their statement!

We went through a situation a little over a year ago where my wife was the 9-1-1 caller (on an 'outside' situation) and when the person whom the 9-1-1 call was on tried to file a complaint...the original 9-1-1 call gave weight to my wife's explanation of the situation! It was regarding the safety of a child...so the police, CPS, and the prosecutor's office were all involved...my wife's 9-1-1 call carried weight as the call was recorded as she witnessed the events were on-going as she was on the line with dispatch...she was able to give a play-by-play as the events unfolded...and one cannot lie on the tape very easily during those types of calls.

It's pretty much human nature to give more credence to the first person to report an incident, everything else being equal. If I'm ever in a shooting incident, I want to be sure that my story is the first in line.

Also, it is important, when you make that 911 call, that you tell the story in the proper order, since the dispatcher will put more weight on what you say first. For example, if you say "I just shot somebody who was attacking me.", what will got out on the air is "Report of a shooting.", and you'll be the suspect. If, on the other hand, you say "I was attacked by somebody and shot them.", it will go out as "Report of an assault with shots fired." and you'll be the victim.


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Besides the P238(most of the time) or P239 (winters). I carry a 3 to 4inch locking folder, a Leatherman SideClip, a small flashlight. a spare mag, car and house keys, cellphone, and a wallet.
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Our potential attackers all have four legs, up, here, so I most often carry a 357 mag and, sometimes, bear spray. I suspect both would work on a two-legged attacker, as well.
I've often thought about carrying bear spray as a first line of defense.

I wonder if there are any legal ramifications in doing so.....

Maybe we can start a separate discussion about it.

I carry a LC9 or LCR, sometimes my LCP as a BUG, a pocket knife and my phone
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Our potential attackers all have four legs, up, here, so I most often carry a 357 mag and, sometimes, bear spray. I suspect both would work on a two-legged attacker, as well.
Sound plan, but remember the following:

The National Park Rangers are advising hikers in Glacier National Park and other Rocky Mountain parks to be alert for bears and take extra precautions to avoid an encounter.
They advise park visitors to wear little bells on their clothes so they make noise when hiking. The bell noise allows bears to hear them coming from a distance and not be startled by a hiker accidentally sneaking up on them. This might cause a bear to charge.
Visitors should also carry a pepper spray can just in case a bear is encountered. Spraying the pepper into the air will irritate the bear's sensitive nose and it will run away.
It is also a good idea to keep an eye out for fresh bear scat so you have an idea if bears are in the area. People should be able to recognize the difference between black bear and grizzly bear scat.
Black bear droppings are smaller and often contain berries, leaves, and possibly bits of fur. Grizzly bear droppings tend to contain small bells and smell of pepper.
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My P938 in my pocket or IWB, a Kershaw Leek, my wallet, and my cell phone.

Thinking the lawyer's phone number wouldn't be a bad idea though.
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My CCW is a Ruger Security Six. Believe it or not, knife laws here in CA are pretty friendly compared to our gun laws. I'd love to carry my Ka-Bar knife, but due to the baggy clothes I wear, the sheathed knife always manages to conceal itself. So I just stick with carrying my Leatherman Wave multitool. Other than that, I carry car/house keys, handcuff key, phone, Blue-Tooth buds, and sometimes a small LED flashlight.
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I always carry a lighter, phone and a Buck knife. I don't smoke, but a lighter can be pretty handy.
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