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This is a discussion on Belt Mountain latch/pins for Ruger Old Army within the Black Powder forums, part of the Firearm Forum category; I've been using my Howell's Conversion Cylinder pretty happily for a year or two in my Ruger Old Army (unbelievably accurate with this gun), but ...


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Old August 30th, 2012, 12:06 PM   #1
 
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Belt Mountain latch/pins for Ruger Old Army

I've been using my Howell's Conversion Cylinder pretty happily for a year or two in my Ruger Old Army (unbelievably accurate with this gun), but haven't been thrilled with the inconvenience of all the mechinations required to remove the cylinder to load it. Frankly, I like to load the black powder cylinder off the gun as well, and turning the latch and tinkering with the Chinese puzzle loading ram parts (it falls apart on me more often than I'd like), is just a hassle. I've pestered Kelye at Belt Mountain about building a cylinder latch for the ROA, to go with his base pin for the gun - figured that would make a quick-change pretty easily.

I was delighted last week to see that Jeff Quinn put up a review of just such a product by Belt Mountain, so I faxed Kelye an order right away. It came in two days, cost a reasonable $34.95 each for both the new blued base pin latch and the new blued #5 style (with notch) base pin . . . and I think Kelye only charged me two dollars for shipping.

It took me about two minutes to install, because I'm not the fastest in the land with an allen wrench (included!). The simplicity of the new base pin latch is really remarkable - what a nice system! Secure, but super easy to manipulate. I was actually sort of shocked that everything works so well - this is faster to use (and appears to be more secure) than the system on the cartridge Ruger single actions I've owned.



Quality is Belt Mountain - top notch. (My apologies for the inadequate cell phone pictures.)



I'm going to be shooting this gun a lot more now. Which is good, because I think it's the most accurate revolver I own.





Now where's that Trail Boss . . . ?




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Erich- Can You order from Belt mountain by calling in a phone order? It looks to me that for those of us without connections there, You have to print the order form and mail with payment. I know that You know them, and my problem is that I don't have a printer. I'll probably just write out an order form by hand.
I got the Kirst Conversion Kit with an extra cylinder, so the Belt Mountain pins would finish off what I consider to be a very slick rig for my Old Army.
I know that you got your conversion kit from a different company, and I've read your reviews and they sound very positive. I just wanted to tell You that the Kirst rig's fit and function are also excellent in case anyone asks you.
These Old Armys are just such a great sidearm. I've heard some speculate that Ruger discontinued the Old Army due to potential liability issues with these conversion kits. For whatever reason they were discontinued, they certainly discontinued a fantastic sidearm.
Also, do You know who makes the thumb screw for the cylinder latch pin?
And one more thing. Do You know anyone who sells Ruger nipple wrenches? Thanks Erich.

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Old September 9th, 2012, 01:25 PM   #3
 
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Hi Buckstone,

I'm pretty sure that you cannot call in a phone order. You can certainly mail in an order, however. Or - as you say - write it out by hand and fax it.

I came this close to buying a Kirst from a classified ad - even sent off the check. The fellow backed out of the sale and returned my check, so I wound up with the Howell's. I've never heard anything bad about the Kirsts, though.

There was a fellow on The Firing Line (I think) who made his own thumbscrew and posted pix of it, but he wasn't interested in making them for others, as I recall. Ruger nipple wrenches? I'd just run a Google search - that's how I found the couple that I have.

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Just got mine today Erich. My Base Pin is knurled just like the base pin latch assembly. It doesn't look like Elmer's set up, but it works fantastic. With my two cylinder Kirst setup I think I have a nice conversion set-up. I can't believe how accurate my ROA is with the .45 LC Cowboy rounds. Now I just need to start reloading.

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Hi Erich & Buckstone

I ordered my Ruger old army quick change cylinder conversion on 9/12, I mailed
the order with a check. Waiting for it to come, got a email from Kelye telling me
he is getting more made so there will be a delay in sending it out.

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Argh!

I'm on vacation in another state, but now want to go home and shoot mine!
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The Belt Mountain base Pin and Latch Pin Assembly is a must with the conversion kits. It makes them twice as fast to switch out. The Old Army shoots so accurately with the .45 cartridges, it is a perfect set up, and Big Brother is out of the picture. I love my Kirst set up, and with the Belt Nountain latch pin You will love Your Old Army. It i a fantastic set up, and I will be doing a LOT of shooting with my Old Army.
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What a difference in speed of switching out the cylinders, huh? Wow, this is a pretty essential piece of gear.
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I wish that I had a mechanical talent like the folks at Belt Mountain. What an ingenious device. I shot my Old Army five days this week. Definitely have to start reloading.

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Yeah you do! I trust you've been saving your brass . . .
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Yep. No brass goes unsaved.

I told Kirst that they should work out a deal with Belt Mountain. They are high quality parts that work perfectly with their conversion kits.

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Man, you're not kidding.

I've got to get that thing back to the range - maybe this coming Friday.
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Erich, I have two building lots at Rio rancho that my Dad bought back in the 60's. I intend to build there for my retirement home. May be You could show me how to shoot some day.
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Say, let me know the next time you're out and we'll hit the range as well as find some green chile chicken enchiladas!
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nice convertion. was there any fitting of the cylinder needed????
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