f> built the old army ruger never has - Ruger Forum

Ruger Forum

built the old army ruger never has

This is a discussion on built the old army ruger never has within the Black Powder forums, part of the Firearm Forum category; Hello, so ive always like the look of the bisley frames i decided to take my old army a bisley. so thats my starting point...


Go Back   Ruger Forum > Firearm Forum > Black Powder

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes

Old April 19th, 2017, 05:30 AM   #1
 
snoplow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: rittman
Posts: 602
snoplow will become famous soon enough
built the old army ruger never has

Hello,
so ive always like the look of the bisley frames i decided to take my old army a bisley.


so thats my starting point



snoplow is offline  
Advertisements
Old April 19th, 2017, 05:33 AM   #2
 
snoplow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: rittman
Posts: 602
snoplow will become famous soon enough
heres a parts list

Wilson combat spring kit
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/18...tion-blackhawk

grip dowel
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/84...gle-six-bisley

grip frame
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/69...tainless-steel

i could not find the trigger pivot dowel thing in the top of the frame so one of my punches fit snugly in the hole so i snapped it off and its doing that job
snoplow is offline  
Old April 19th, 2017, 05:34 AM   #3
 
snoplow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: rittman
Posts: 602
snoplow will become famous soon enough
there was a light amount of sanding an polishing down but it still needs work. hardest part was making a 2 screw frame reset the trigger on a old 3 screw design.
snoplow is offline  
 
Old April 19th, 2017, 05:35 AM   #4
 
snoplow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: rittman
Posts: 602
snoplow will become famous soon enough
but heres the end result:
snoplow is offline  
Old April 19th, 2017, 05:36 AM   #5
 
snoplow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: rittman
Posts: 602
snoplow will become famous soon enough
i may take my blued old army and make it a birds head now that i know how to do this i ordered more parts to do this and did not need them.
snoplow is offline  
Old April 19th, 2017, 12:34 PM   #6
 
gunman42782's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: KY, USA.
Posts: 3,046
gunman42782 is on a distinguished road

Awards Showcase

Pretty cool!
gunman42782 is offline  
Old April 19th, 2017, 12:53 PM   #7
 
DCD327's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: North central , PA
Posts: 5,722
DCD327 is a splendid one to beholdDCD327 is a splendid one to beholdDCD327 is a splendid one to beholdDCD327 is a splendid one to beholdDCD327 is a splendid one to beholdDCD327 is a splendid one to beholdDCD327 is a splendid one to behold
Nice looking revolver. Nice job.
DCD327 is offline  
Old April 19th, 2017, 01:25 PM   #8
The Fresh Prince
 
Neon Horse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Moonshine, TN
Posts: 19,588
Neon Horse is a splendid one to beholdNeon Horse is a splendid one to beholdNeon Horse is a splendid one to beholdNeon Horse is a splendid one to beholdNeon Horse is a splendid one to beholdNeon Horse is a splendid one to beholdNeon Horse is a splendid one to behold
I like that a lot! Awesome conversion!
Neon Horse is online now  
Old April 19th, 2017, 03:00 PM   #9
 
ifithitu's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Louisville,Ky.
Posts: 2,705
ifithitu will become famous soon enoughifithitu will become famous soon enough
That's a beautiful revolver,,I wish it was mine!
ifithitu is offline  
Old April 19th, 2017, 05:31 PM   #10
 
Smithy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Central Valley of California
Posts: 1,471
Smithy is on a distinguished road
Cool Stuff my friend. My "Birdshead" old army came the hard way as I built up the web area of the original grip frame in order to cut the new "Birdshead" profile out of the original grip. A Bunch of filing, sanding, and polishing later and I ended up with an Old Army Shopkeeper's Special. The best part, is that you'll be the only one owning such a gun for quite a distance if not the only one to have one and it's absolutely a large bunch of fun. Keep up the great work!!! Smithy.
Smithy is offline  
Old April 19th, 2017, 08:21 PM   #11
 
snoplow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: rittman
Posts: 602
snoplow will become famous soon enough
Quote:
Originally Posted by Smithy View Post
Cool Stuff my friend. My "Birdshead" old army came the hard way as I built up the web area of the original grip frame in order to cut the new "Birdshead" profile out of the original grip. A Bunch of filing, sanding, and polishing later and I ended up with an Old Army Shopkeeper's Special. The best part, is that you'll be the only one owning such a gun for quite a distance if not the only one to have one and it's absolutely a large bunch of fun. Keep up the great work!!! Smithy.
post a picture of that id love to see it!
snoplow is offline  
Old April 20th, 2017, 04:04 AM   #12
 
Smithy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Central Valley of California
Posts: 1,471
Smithy is on a distinguished road
Not wanting to steal the show here, but as asked here was an earlier "Old Army Project" of mine with a couple of cool features?

[IMG][/IMG]

This one ended up with a Howell conversion cylinder in 45 LC. I milled one safety notch in the firing pin plate opposite of the alignment pin between the plate and the main cylinder. (figured that only one notch would be needed as after the first round, you'd be on a dead chamber anyway, right?)

The loading lever gear has been removed, but some parts have been repurposed in my gun. The ram piece was knurled and a groove that mates with a frame installed detent ball (to keep the ram piece in the gun during firing) was cut into the ram piece. On the inside of what was the rounded ram surface, there are two identical pins swaged in place. These pins are the exact slot width of the cylinder lock screw. In use, the ram piece is pulled from the gun and the cupped end centers the two pins directly over the cylinder lock screw. A quick turn has the cylinder open for base pin removal and subsequent reloading. The base pin here also serves as a case knock out tool.

Used sparingly in SASS it was a fun gun to shoot and easy to reload. If you're familiar with the Howell conversion cylinders? The shorter than normal cylinder is faced on the hammer side with a six pin, firing pin plate or firewall. This plate covers all of the loaded/unloaded or empty cartridges, so it was quite a chore to show and ensure to the SASS safety worker that the gun was either loaded or unloaded. As such I stopped using it a SASS shoots sticking mainly with my pair of Bisley's where a loaded or unloaded condition was easy to show.

I had a fellow help mount the new front sight so you won't get the total effect of what I "tried" to do. The front sight here is actually a cut portion of an Australian coin (British roots of course). One side had the Queen and the other a stringed instrument of some sort. I avoided getting a piece of head or other ill ends, but captures a beautiful section of the coin that had flowers and a lyre (I believe?) on the other side. The border of the coin wasn't exactly round either but a multi sided polygon of some count. Now comes the fun part. After all of the coping sawing and filing that I did to get that great front sight, the fellow giving me a hand with mounting it thought that I only used the coin since it was silver and looked like the stainless gun it was going on. So he then took that sight and polished both sides removing any form of the original coins minting. Polishing it also removed any remnant of polygon that it had, just becoming a standard front blade.

I had to go with a new sight in this case due to the shorter barrel. If the regular 7.5" barrel sight had of been used, the gun would have shot terribly high. This higher sight blade brought the rounds right to point of aim for SASS distances.

Now as mentioned in my earlier post, the grip frame was welded up so that the center of the grip was the same width as the outer edge, at least where I was going to be cutting it to produce the birds head grip. I used a piece of 3/8" drill rod to eat the center of a 3M wheel I had and that grooved wheel helped tremendously in polishing up the newly ground contours of the back strap/front strap areas. One last area of help I solicited was in having Bar-S do up a set of polymer ivory grips that fit my gun to a tee. I don't do grips too well and since there was not going to be a gun anywhere close to my one off example, I decided to have the pros do the job. It came out nice, was a blast to make and even funner to shoot knowing that I'd created the modifications on it. That's about all I can think of? So again to the OP, you're going to have a blast. Working on Ruger's, especially Old Armies is just plain FUN. Smithy
Smithy is offline  
Old April 20th, 2017, 04:58 AM   #13
 
snoplow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: rittman
Posts: 602
snoplow will become famous soon enough
thanks for posting that i love it! i kinda think now though that birds head looks best on a shorter bbl, now seeing yours makes me think maybe birds head might look odd as my other one has the same barrel length as this one. maybe i need to find one of the short bbl fixed sight version to bh grip

Last edited by snoplow; April 20th, 2017 at 05:15 AM.
snoplow is offline  
Old April 20th, 2017, 05:02 AM   #14
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: wayne nj
Posts: 23,274
bwinters is a name known to allbwinters is a name known to allbwinters is a name known to allbwinters is a name known to allbwinters is a name known to allbwinters is a name known to all
always nice to see guns that could have been. I want and still do a black powder old army type of revovler with a 50 caliber cylinder with enough room to hold 60 grains of blackpowder and a 300 plus grain conical and a 10 inch octagon barrel.
bwinters is offline  
Old April 20th, 2017, 12:33 PM   #15
 
snoplow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: rittman
Posts: 602
snoplow will become famous soon enough
Quote:
Originally Posted by bwinters View Post
always nice to see guns that could have been. I want and still do a black powder old army type of revovler with a 50 caliber cylinder with enough room to hold 60 grains of blackpowder and a 300 plus grain conical and a 10 inch octagon barrel.
a buntline .50 cap and ball, ur an absolute wild man, I love it!
snoplow is offline  
Reply

  Ruger Forum > Firearm Forum > Black Powder

Thread Tools
Display Modes


Similar Ruger Forum Discussions
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
For Sale: Used Ruger Old Army bohica762 Firearms 0 September 25th, 2015 06:17 AM
The gun Ruger never built Tx gunrunner Gunsmithing 15 January 29th, 2013 12:46 PM
Want To Buy: Ruger Old Army INDY45 Firearms 0 October 7th, 2012 04:57 PM
Ruger Mark II Amphibian II built by AWC Keith Smith Ruger Rimfires 5 October 30th, 2008 05:03 PM

Top Gun Sites Top Sites List
Powered by vBulletin 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.1
Copyright © 2006 - 2017 Ruger Forum. All rights reserved.
Ruger Forum is a Ruger Firearms enthusiast's forum, but it is in no way affiliated with, nor does it represent Sturm Ruger & Company Inc. of Southport, CT.