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This is a discussion on Blackpowder or Pyrodex experience within the Black Powder forums, part of the Firearm Forum category; I have only used Pyrodex in my Pietta revolvers and in my Traditions Hawken. I have never used Blackpowder. Performance wise I hear that Blackpowder ...


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Old April 16th, 2017, 11:17 AM   #1
 
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Blackpowder or Pyrodex experience

I have only used Pyrodex in my Pietta revolvers and in my Traditions Hawken. I have never used Blackpowder. Performance wise I hear that Blackpowder is easier to ignite...and I have had a misfire or 2 in my Hawken, not saying Pyrodex is to blame...the misfires were related to fouling after a few to several shots at the range.
I have 2 related questions.
1) Does anyone have enough experience to tell me that Blackpowder IS EASIER to ignite?
2) I have heard some say it is actually easier to clean and has less fouling than Pyrodex. Is this true?



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Real blackpowder is much easier to ignite than Pyrodex. As far as cleaning, I couldn't ever tell the difference. I always preferred real blackpowder to substitutes, when I could find it.
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Availability of black powder is a real problem in new jersey. I hav run out and gotten pyrodex as asubstitute. I have to go well into pennsylvania to ger real balck powder. black powder can be very accurate read john taffin.
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By the way, I see you are from Ohio, don't know whereabouts, but they have the National Muzzle Loading Championships twice a year in Friendship, IN. If you become a member, they sell real black powder at a discount. This will show my age, but when I was a member the last time I bought black powder I got Elephant brand for $6 a pound and Goexx for $8! You won't find it that cheap no more I assure you.
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I've used nothing but the real BP ever since I got into the much older "smoke poles" back around 1970 or so. A real good friend of mine has used Pyrodex in his Kentucky rifle (percussion), however I noticed he had several misfires also even when the rifle was reasonably cleaned. I've shot both Flintlock rifles as well as Flintlock pistols, and revolvers, I'll be the first to tell ya, that the substitute powders just don't ignite the main charge in the barrel, as you don't even get the flash in the pan in flintlocks in most instances. I've used 4F real BP in the pan on my flintlocks and never had a flash in the pan where the main charge didn't ignite.

Even my cartridge BP rounds, I use real BP, especially the 45-70 Sharps, and my Springfield trap door using Mil Spec ammo that I made using a 405grn. lead projectile, and assembling the way they were back then, thanks in part to Pat Wolf and the edition of "Loading Cartridges for the Original .45-70 Springfield Rifle and Carbine". there is nothing quite like using the real black powder. Now I usually use Goex, and Elephant by the way, although I've used KIKI BP also, which I believe is made in the orient somewhere, but it all worked very well, when I did my part.

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By the way, I see you are from Ohio, don't know whereabouts, but they have the National Muzzle Loading Championships twice a year in Friendship, IN. If you become a member, they sell real black powder at a discount. This will show my age, but when I was a member the last time I bought black powder I got Elephant brand for $6 a pound and Goexx for $8! You won't find it that cheap no more I assure you.
I have been to the Friendship shoot. It has been at least 15 years though. I really should go check it out. I bought a holster for my Blackhawk there from a leather guy. Lots of interesting things there as I remember
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Switched to black powder from pyrodex in the cannon. Pyrodex was very dirty to shoot, and harder to regulate. AFFF worked better and burned cleaner.
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I don't have too much experience with Pyrodex because when I had my cap & ball revolver not only did I cast my own balls, but I also made my own blackpowder. I really don't have anything positive to say about Pyrodex other than it's way more readily available in gun stores than blackpowder is if you're not interested in making your own. The only con about blackpowder I have is not the fault of the powder itself but rather user error on my part and that is that it's extremely corrosive and it lead to the death of my revolver because I was stupid enough to leave the cylinder charged and uncapped for an extended period and when I manually removed the charges, the chamber walls were a trainwreck and I deemed it unsafe to fire anymore.
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I tried Pyrodex but I got tired of pull the trigger POP 1-mississipi, 2-missi BANG

I never had a misfire with Pyrodex but lots of hangfires that I never have with real BP. With real BP, I pull the trigger and instantly have a BANG
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Black powder only for me. Where I live it's hard to find. I was driving 2.5 hours to bass pro until I found www.powderinc.com. It's cheaper and delivered to my front door. You have to purchase 5 pounds, but it's worth it. You can mix and match goex, Swiss, old Ensford etc.
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Major Tom - GONRA's pretty sure REAL (not home made) black powder
wouldn't have screwed up your fire arm in this fashion.

Trying to Duplicate Commercial Black Powder in yer basement is unlikely to be Completely "Long Term Stability" Successful.
Heavy presses, etc. are needed to Do It Right.

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It`s called a Black Powder pistol, not a Pyrodex pistol. So use the real stuff.
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If you cannot get black powder,

see if Track Of The Wolf has a musket top hat nipple to fit your Hawken. It gives a hotter ignition.
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Although I have to drive 100 miles into Pa to buy black powder, I prefer it over Pyrodex.
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