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Old February 15th, 2017, 02:45 PM   #1
 
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Colt Walker / Dragoon

Watching the old TV western, "Laramie", today, (Season 2, episode 12), noticed a set of what looked like Colt Walkers or maybe 2nd model Dragoons with extremely long barrels. Looked like 15+ inch barrels. Of course, I got all excited and started searching the internet for info on these revolvers. No luck, yet. Any ideas?



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2nd dragoon had a 71/2 inch barrel walker 9 inch. Tv westerns and movies had nonexistent guns. No such thing commercially as the cut down rifle in wanted dead or alive and until the 1980s many westerns set in the 1870s had winchester 92s in them as they were available and cheaper than a vintage gun. I remember several b westerns where the cavalry used lever action rifles not springfields.
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2nd dragoon had a 71/2 inch barrel walker 9 inch. Tv westerns and movies had nonexistent guns. No such thing commercially as the cut down rifle in wanted dead or alive and until the 1980s many westerns set in the 1870s had winchester 92s in them as they were available and cheaper than a vintage gun. I remember several b westerns where the cavalry used lever action rifles not springfields.
Someone put up a couple of Colt style dragoons with very long barrels. This interests me. I would like a link to info and photos. I have searched the Colt collectors forum, the websites of The Cody and NRA museums. Someone out there knows about these revolvers. The search continues.
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Finally got some pictures of the guns.



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With all the cowboy shows many needed a gimmick the cut sown rifle on wanted dead or alive the he rifle of Chuck Connors on the riflemanHe use dit liek a rifle for fast draw.
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The first one kinda looks like a Walker but without the square back trigger guard, and it looks like a round barrel. The second one looks more like a Remington (looks like a top strap to me) but that's definitely not an 8" bbl. Is it just me or does the 3rd picture not look like the same gun in the 1st picture?
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2nd dragoon had a 71/2 inch barrel walker 9 inch. Tv westerns and movies had nonexistent guns. No such thing commercially as the cut down rifle in wanted dead or alive and until the 1980s many westerns set in the 1870s had winchester 92s in them as they were available and cheaper than a vintage gun. I remember several b westerns where the cavalry used lever action rifles not springfields.
I understand all that. The time frame of this scene is 1870 and SAAs do abound on this show. Guess Hollywood figures the viewing audience don't know any better.
It is the long bbl second or 3rd model dragoon I am interested in and would like info on it.
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The first one kinda looks like a Walker but without the square back trigger guard, and it looks like a round barrel. The second one looks more like a Remington (looks like a top strap to me) but that's definitely not an 8" bbl. Is it just me or does the 3rd picture not look like the same gun in the 1st picture?
Better pic of the second.
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The replica 1858 Army I had sported a 12" barrel and that looks to be the length on the gun in the pics. Then of course there's always the Colt Buntline Special that had a comically long barrel usually 16".
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Notice how the ejector rod, in the third photo, seems to go to the end of the long
barrel ? Or is that just an optical illusion ? In the first photo I don't see the ejector rod
maybe those are two different guns. Actually , the gun in the third photo appears different than the other three , the others do not appear to have an ejector rod...could that indicate a cartridge conversion ?
Interesting what TV/movie propmen came up with back then.
Did the Rifleman ever explain how he came up with his fancy, fast shooting , large loop rifle?
John Wayne movies may have had something to do with it.
I did and still do enjoy all those old TV Westerns. We have a cable channel that plays them....I love them all.
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