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This is a discussion on ROA Shoots High within the Black Powder forums, part of the Firearm Forum category; My experience with those guns leads me to believe that "Hot" loads print lower on the target than "Poof" loads. Mine too. Except when distance ...


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Old January 7th, 2017, 08:47 AM   #31
 
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My experience with those guns leads me to believe that "Hot" loads print lower on the target than "Poof" loads.
Mine too. Except when distance enters the equation. At 100y the 'puff' load will probably print lower (gravity has more time to do it's magic).... Heavier bullets print higher than lighter bullets at the same velocity though.




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It's about recoil. For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction.

The more recoil you have, whether from a heavier bullet or a hotter load will cause more rearward force and therefore more muzzle rise while the bullet is exiting the barrel.

Plow handles tend to roll more, a reason some prefer the Bisley style grip. But ... a lot of this has to do with the size of your hand vs. the size of your grip, one handed vs. two handed, how firmly you grip, etc.

Although I consistently read that bisley grips are preferred for heavy recoil, I do not concur. I find the plow handle much more comfortable. But I do have fairly large hands; perhaps that is the difference. And I like to shoot my single actions one handed.

Try varying your loads by 5 grain increments and see where your group prints. I think you will find it interesting.

For me, this lesson was learned early with single shot muzzle loading handguns. There is no way to adjust the site, so changes in load becomes a necessity to change vertical grouping at a given distance.
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I was scheduled to make a range trip today

I had hoped that tonight I would be reporting back that my sights zeroed out perfectly and all was well.

But things got in the way and today was No-Shots-Fired.

Bummer. Joy is on hold till next week.

I can't wait to get this thing shooting like I know it can...
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Old January 30th, 2017, 04:20 PM   #34
 
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Shots Fired!

Sorry, guys. This project has been on hold for entirely too long.

I made it out to the gun range today. It was beautiful low 70's weather and not much wind.

I fired the Old Army at 15 yards, and this was the very first group of the day.



My point of aim was the center of that little diamond.

The load was 30 grains Pyrodex P, Hornady .457 ball, CCI #11 cap. No fillers or special tricks.

Second group I fired.



I was hoping I could get it a little lower than it is. That group is centered 1/2" high.

The truth is, that's probably a good spot for it when I start shooting at things at other distances.

I'm going to leave it alone for a while and shoot it some.

I really like this pistol. It's a fun range toy and it isn't costing me a fortune to play with it. This was my fourth outing with it and I just finished off my first box of balls.

I'm getting better at cleaning it, too. Only took me 30 minutes this time.

I find more gunk to clean out every time and it's getting smoother and prettier every time a clean it.

I'm a happy camper.
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Here is how it looks right now...

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. Looks good to me. Now you can just go out and enjoy the revolver. It is addicting!

Glad to see your 'weather' is so accommodating! We got another 5" of snow today and it is still coming down. Supposed to have sub -10F (some say -20 or so) nights for the next few days .. and more snow. Haven't got out for weeks. Have a new Walker that needs initiating.

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That looks good. But, it can shoot better at that distance. I bet the 30 gr is close to a full load. Did you feel resistance (powder compression) when you seated the bullet? If not, I'd try a filler next time you go out and see if it makes a difference.

If the Ruger isn't the best readily available BP revolver, it is certainly among the best.

I've been thinking about getting a conversion cylinder for mine. I'd like to try some .45 Colts through it.
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You know, I thought about buying a conversion cylinder to .45 Colt ... as it my favorite cartridge... but then I thought ... naw, this is a BP fire-arm, I have other revolvers in .45 Colt ... I'll keep it a cap&ball revolver .
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I thought about buying a conversion cylinder
Interesting comment.

It seems like every time the topic of black powder pistols comes up, somebody says "You need to get the conversion! it's BETTER!"

O.K., I'm willing to admit that there's more power available with smokeless.

And it would allow a larger selection of bullet types.

But I'm just not ready to call it better.

I bought my ROA because I wanted to fiddle with it. The whole concept of loading, and playing with different powders, and learning all the little tricks, and taking it apart, Heck- I even ground on the frame!

Every time I take it to the range, I meet new people and have conversations because the thing just has "Fun" written all over it.

As such, it's doing exactly what I wanted it for. It makes me smile.

If it were the only pistol I owned, I can see where having a conversion cylinder might give me a little more versatility and reliability. Under that circumstance it might be a good thing to do.

Fortunately for me, the ROA is not my only handgun.

If I need more power, I need only open the safe and reach in there. Reliability? Versitility? I have that covered too.

If I suddenly realize that there's some facet of handgunning that I don't have equipment for, I'll get what I need to do it instead of modifying my ROA.

I'll pass on the conversion cylinder. I like loading and shooting the thing just the way it is... And I agree. I think it will shoot better groups.

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