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Old April 22nd, 2016, 05:01 PM   #1
 
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OK I've got one that I bought years ago and put away. Now I want to shoot it. Use pyrodex, black powder or pellets? How much powder-just fill it to the top and ram a ball in or dos the measurement have to be more critical? Does BP and/or pyrodex need to be compressed? What is all this about fillers? ffx fffx or what. What kind of caps-any particular brand to ensure snug fit. I'm a rank newbie regarding this and could use some direction. Been reading some threads and am ready to go to the range and make big BOOM and plenty of smoke.



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Old April 23rd, 2016, 03:37 AM   #2
 
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Number 11 percussion caps, find an empty cartridge that fills a chamber to within 1/8 of an inch of being level with 2f or 3f BP or pyrodex pistol. Use a .457 round ball seated below the front of cylinder. Top off each chamber with Crisco or your choice of lube from the many commercially available. Last, put the caps on the nipples and have fun!
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Number 11 percussion caps, find an empty cartridge that fills a chamber to within 1/8 of an inch of being level with 2f or 3f BP or pyrodex pistol. Use a .457 round ball seated below the front of cylinder. Top off each chamber with Crisco or your choice of lube from the many commercially available. Last, put the caps on the nipples and have fun!
Couldn't have said it better !

One of the secrets to cap & ball revolvers is that it is impossible to over load them if you stick with traditional black powder. If the ball will seat flush with the cylinder mouth on top of the powder charge, you're good to go. If anything, the danger is not putting enough powder in.
I prefer real black powder to the substitutes but that's just me.

The cheapest powder dipper is an old cartridge casing that throws the correct amount of powder. If you can't find one that is the correct size, use a bigger one and cut/file it down until you reach the desired volume. A piece of heavy copper wire wrapped around the base of the casing and soldered on makes a neat little handle for your custom powder dipper. Another method is to find a powder flask that throws a slightly heavy charge and then cut the spout down until you reach the perfect charge.

In my experience with cap & ball revolvers, round balls ALWAYS shoot better than conical bullets.

GOOD LUCK and enjoy your ROA !
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Not much to add, but I use 40g (volume) of powder, with a cream of wheat filler to bring up to that 1/8 from top. Then .457 ball on top. Ram down below mouth of cylinder and ready to cap (after all six are loaded).

Enjoy.
Just remember to thoroughly clean your revolver 'the same day' with soap and hot water. I also like the Murphy mix too. I also ALWAYS remove the nipples and clean them up and the threads. Also I disassemble revolver all the way down as the crud gets inside the revolver too.
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40 grains of pyrodex FORGET baby cereal use a Wonder Wad seat ball on top I cannot figure out why people want to add cheerios got room for that<< add more powder!!
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Indeed! Great advice.
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NO Cream of Wheat!! No oatmeal!! Get a powder measure, pour 40 grains of Pyrodex P seat a Wonder Wad down seat a .457 ball repeat 6 times. Cap, and enjoy
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Yes , BP needs compressed No air gaps
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I use schwartzpulver equivalent to a 4 f. 140 grain round ball compressed load 1090 fps.
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I've been using it for years and it works great. Cheap too. Easy. No mess with slime on the front of cylinder. Accurate. Hundreds if not thousands of balls have gone down range too. Can't see why not. I am sure those 'wonder' wads though work as well too.

As for adding more powder instead of a filler, sure... But I didn't find it as accurate, so backed off to 40g (1062fps 777, 903fps Black MZ). Still plenty of 'zip'.
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Thats plain silly to pack fruit loops on top of powder This is the first site I've ever read of this nonsense. Too funny
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Thats plain silly to pack fruit loops on top of powder This is the first site I've ever read of this nonsense. Too funny
that is because you are new to black powder...us old timers were using it 40+ years ago and that is the way we were thought by even older people who had been firing black powder even longer.
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I'd be afraid to use fruit loops... don't want my ROA's to get cavities. Wonder if Count Chocula has sugar in it?
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what has not being mentioned....is that a filler such as cream of wheat...or in my case corn meal....is to use reduced powder....to get the most accuracy... the filler is used to compress the load...because the lever/piston only goes so far...as others have pointed out...an air-gap is more a threat than an overload..

my ROA's will shot one one groups with a 20 grain load...with corn meal to compress...

one other method for target loads..is to have an extended ram...to be able to reach/compress the ball-powder load without a filler....I made one that looked like a powder dipping spoon...ROAs will really shoot extremely accurate with reduced load

to make it easier I found a used powder flask...fitted it with a 20grain spout marked it with a black "C" on each side...and use it to dispense the corn meal...for my target loads

and anyone who has experience with a ROA..KNOWS...that a reduced load is more accurate than loading to the max

buts that just from shooting my SS ROA since 1974....hummm thats 42 years....

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