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Old February 15th, 2016, 08:51 AM   #1
 
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Uberti 1858 remington - as good as the ROA?

Brand new SS 44 cal uberti 1858s sell for around $450 while used ROAs seem to be closer to $700. Product reviews indicate the uberti is a pretty good gun and 45 colt conversions are available for it too. Saw an uberti in a store the other day but it had the 8" barrel and i want the 5.5"



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A good suggestion to learn a lot about both guns is to watch Mike Beliveau's YouTube videos. His channel is Duelist1954.

In general, the Uberti and Pietta revolvers currently being produced are intended to be replicas of the originals. The Ruger Old Army revolvers were Bill Ruger's modern interpretation. I am a anything but an expert about these guns, but I suspect that by "better," off you mean stronger and more reliable, Ruger would likely get the nod. The Uberti guns are better in the sense that they're more like the originals.
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With that top-strap, the reproduction 1858 Remington's are certainly stronger than the repros of the open-top Colt 1851 Navy's and 1860 Army's. I doubt they are as strong as the ROA's but you will not wear one out from conventional loads. I would like to have an 1858 Remington.

BTW... the ROA's are not a reproduction of anything... Bill Ruger wanted to build an "Army Tank" of a black powder handgun, and he did.
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I have a stainless 1858, .44, made by Pietta and sold through Traditions. I went with the stainless, even though it's not historically correct, because of the wet conditions when I lived and hunted in Florida. I have had no problems with it and I would recommend it to anyone............robin
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I'd say its as strong as the ROA but it lacks fully adjustable sights!
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If roas wers till made I would say go wiht it. If you want a new gun the uberti is much cheaper than a new roa.
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I have a stainless 1858, .44, made by Pietta and sold through Traditions. I went with the stainless, even though it's not historically correct, because of the wet conditions when I lived and hunted in Florida. I have had no problems with it and I would recommend it to anyone............robin
That's what impressed me about the uberti - that it is stainless, like my ROA. Both are beautiful guns.
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Depends on your interpretation of good

I have owned both. Fired both extensively. The Uberti guns are very finely made replicas of the originals, maybe even better than the originals. You will get the full feeling of a period cap and ball pistol as they truly work exactly as the guns of the 19th century only better. The Piettas are similar but not as finely finished.
The Old Army is probably the most powerful C&B revolver ever made. It's a .457 caliber rather than .451, the cavernous cylinders hold at least 45 gr. of FFFG. I found mine to be every bit as accurate as my .357 Blackhawk at 25 yds. It's what the Colt Walker should have been! It just doesn't feel like the old designs being a heavier more substantial design.
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If you want a cap and baller for "serious" heavy shooting it's the POA all day......

If you want a more historically correct repro than the Uberti is the way to go.

I had heard Remington made some 1858's in recent years but I suspect they are probably Remington-finished Ubertis, much like the Colt "re-introductions" were.

I want a ROA just because I think they're neat, but I also want a Pedersoli Rogers and Spencer. I just think they're neat looking.
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The Uberti is the better of the two. Spending extra $ on a reputable cowboy action job will make Remington run slick and lighten the hammer. I have a 5-shot Kirst converter for .45LC. It makes the Remington a dandy.
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My '76 SOA is the tightest grouping SA I've ever owned - and I've had a lot of them in the last 50yrs. If you want tough and accurate its Ruger - if you want to save $ and aren't sure you'll shoot a lot, go for the Uberti
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If both were still in production and not collectors prices ont he ruger I would say get the ruger. Now for a shooter only the uberti 1858.
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Check the loads. ROA 45 plus grains. What do the imports load? 25? 30? Not as strong as the Ruger. They make a nice cap gun , tho
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I recently asked about ROA's on my muzzle loading forum

While very accurate, the general consensus was they are over-priced. Parts can be a problem. Current 1858's are said to be of improved quality, so you aren't sacrificing too much going with the repro. I never liked the Ruger's odd ball diameter, myself. And I think nipples are unique, as well. Too bad, as the ROA is a nice looking piece. My LGS has a LNIB stainless but they are asking $599. I'm a shooter, not collector/investor.
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What's odd about .457? Its a .45 caliber. Nothing odd about that!
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