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Old June 19th, 2016, 01:23 PM   #16
 
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Odd in the sense that most .44's use a .451 or .454

You might be able to seat a .457 in an 1858, but I don't believe you can go the other way in the ROA. I just priced Hornady 100 count swaged on Track of the Wolf. About $12 for .451 and .454, $16.50 for .457. .52 is cheaper, even though it has more lead, indicating that Hornady has lower sales volumes for the ROA ammo. You'd best make your own if you decide on the Ruger. Odds of finding .457 on the shelf will likely be slim.



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You might be able to seat a .457 in an 1858, but I don't believe you can go the other way in the ROA. I just priced Hornady 100 count swaged on Track of the Wolf. About $12 for .451 and .454, $16.50 for .457. .52 is cheaper, even though it has more lead, indicating that Hornady has lower sales volumes for the ROA ammo. You'd best make your own if you decide on the Ruger. Odds of finding .457 on the shelf will likely be slim.
I find them all time.. Bass Pro,, LGS, Cabelas,, NO problem finding .457balls for the PREMIER Cap and Ball Revolver!
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And GunBroker has .457 ball ammo but I'm not going to pay shipping
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Uberti all the way...I have a SS 1858 with 5 1/2" barrel shoot black powder loads and also have the conversion cylinder and shoot 45Colt rounds all day long.


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Uberti all the way...I have a SS 1858 with 5 1/2" barrel shoot black powder loads and also have the conversion cylinder and shoot 45Colt rounds all day long.

What are your loads on the imports?
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That's a nice fit on brass,,,,, Yea,,,,,,,,,,I want an import!!
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i always liked the remington 58 repo,s(i own ROA,s too), lighter and slimmer with 3/4 the power of the ROA,s and at the ranges i shoot(10-30yrds) they are ok. if i,m going for a heavy hunting load then the ruger gets the nod. eastbank.
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What are your loads on the imports?
I shoot the standard Blackpowder loads of 30gr and a .451 round ball. For.45Colt I shoot smokeless powders Unique, Trail boss, or Titegroup loads using 250gr RNFP's. All the loads are generally standard pressure cowboy action levels. I truly love the feel and experience of the 1858's. I have multiply blackpowder cap and ball cylinders, as well as cartridge conversion cylinders.

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You cats like your imports,but to say that it's better than a Ruger?? No way, WRONG!! I wouldn't trade my Old Armies for a box full of imitations. But enjoy the Ubertis!!
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You cats like your imports,but to say that it's better than a Ruger?? No way, WRONG!! I wouldn't trade my Old Armies for a box full of imitations. But enjoy the Ubertis!!
Rugers are out of production....Yes they are better, after all the ROA rolled over and died.

There will always be hanger ons... it's just the nature of people. Once it's wore out and parts become scarce, they will make awesome wall hangers or paper weights. BUT enjoy your ROA.
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I know I will enjoy my ROAs. Hanger on indeed and proud of it. Lifetime of enjoyment. One should have a couple at least. Saw three at the gun show this past weekend. So they are 'available' .

Basically the ROA is a BH turned into a BP revolver. Not period correct, but very well constructed. I also have an import 1858 and I shot it a lot before I bought my first ROA. I've had to knock out the base pin from the back a few times. Now I have to everytime as the base-pin head was 'peened' on to the base pin and will fall off with any pulling pressure. Should have been one piece. Only problem I have/had with this revolver. Shoots ok though, but much prefer shooting the ROAs.
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You can't wear out a Ruger. The cheap imitations are a sincere form of flattery. Shoot squib loads in a Uberti. next you will say a uberti is as good as a Blackhawk! No way is a import as well made as a Ruger
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Properly cared for, either gun will outlast us

Parts can be a concern, though. I'm starting to see bits for T/C Hawkens creeping up in price. Those are to muzzle loading rifles what the ROA is to revolvers. Strong, well built but not exactly period correct. If you're a re-enactor, etc, that is an issue. If you're a shooter, well, who cares so long you as make smoke and it meets your level of expectation?

I just scrolled through GunBroker and I think I didn't see one ROA under $600. Some fellow was asking over a grand for a new stainless. I'd like one but the current prices are just too out of line for me, personally. I wonder if some here who are die hard ROA fans would replace their inventories at the present rate? I could see making an offer of perhaps $400 or even $500 for that stainless in my shop but the auction sites have made haggling on these impossible.
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The only reason I'm in this thread is some FOOL said an Import is as good as a Ruger.
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Uberti all the way...I have a SS 1858 with 5 1/2" barrel shoot black powder loads and also have the conversion cylinder and shoot 45Colt rounds all day long.

Look at big gap on trigger guard! and front sight looks home made
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