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Old October 12th, 2015, 09:34 AM   #1
 
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how common is the old army?

I was at the range yesterday shooting a variety of toys including my OA. A guy that I have seen at the range semi-regularly walks up and tells me that gun has a heck of a report. I just say yes and continue, he then tells me he loves black powder and has quite a few. At this time I put my OA down and start loading something else and he takes a look at my OA (with my permission). He asks me what kind of gun that is ? I tell him its a Ruger Old Army and he says the he thought he recognized the Blackhawk frame but who did the conversion to black powder, I say Ruger did, its a Old Army and he proceeds to tell me that he knows Ruger guns quite well and there is no way they ever made a black powder gun, someone modified the Blackhawk before I bought it, I tell him I bought the OA NEW in 1975 just after I turned 18 and he says no way its a Ruger even though I show him the markings on the gun.

At this point I pick up my 45LC SAA and start shooting, ignoring him. Is the OA really that rare that even when someone is holding it in his hand he wont believe its a real Ruger



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NO, he must have been under a rock.
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Some people need to be hit over the head with it before they believe anything.
Tell him the internet is a wonderful place.
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Might have been a good time to let him know Ruger also made a lever action rifle, an over-and-under shotgun, a 10-22 magnum and 10-17 rifle, a 357 Redhawk revolver, a police carbine rifle in 9mm and 40 S&W, a 9mm Speed Six revolver, and even a 9mm submachine gun. You could also have mentioned some of the even rarer items Ruger made ... like their tool line and prototype car.
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Well, if the Range Professor just started learning Ruger after '08 he may never have seen one in the catalog. His loss.

Although like ChooseWisely mentioned, the internet is a wonderful thing.
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Mikeyr, how can I contact this guy really quick, I also have the same ROA I might
could be talked out of if the $$ is right. I think there were maybeee 2 made.
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...I tell him its a Ruger Old Army and he says the he thought he recognized the Blackhawk frame but who did the conversion to black powder, I say Ruger did, its a Old Army and he proceeds to tell me that he knows Ruger guns quite well and there is no way they ever made a black powder gun, someone modified the Blackhawk before I bought it...
Uh... yeah. The Old Army frame is quite different than the Blackhawk frame. That would be a significant 'modification'!
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My dad owns one. Not THAT rare for people to not know about them. If I know about them, then this guys was seriously in hiding.
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Anyone into blackpowder shooting would surely (I would have thought!) ran across the Ruger Old Army! Most magazines or digests dedicated to BP, would (and did) make reference to it. And of course any of the Ruger books usually have a few pages dedicated to the revolver. I wanted one not long after I got married back in the 80s, but wasn't until just a few years ago that I got my first one. By then they were out of production. Still I ended up with 3 NIB, and two just slightly used. They are out there yet.

I could understand someone that just shot semi-autos all the time maybe not knowing they were out there, or one of those 'only' S&W shooters....
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It seems to be a common attitude among quite a few people: 'if I don't know about it, then it doesn't exist'. That, and the 'expert' attitude about things they know a bit about, mainly from hearsay (a friend's cousin's brother-in-law's sister's friend told them that 'brand x' guns suck because one jammed on him) or urban legends that have been circulated for some time. One of my favorite 'legends' is that if you shoot commercial ammo in an M1 Garand rifle you'll break it...
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Well he seemed like a nice guy, just was absolutely positive that Ruger had not made it. Once I ignored him and went on to shooting other toys, he moved on.

I was just a little shocked, I have owned my OA for what seems like forever. It was the first new gun I purchased in my life ( a few days past my 18th bday with bday money ), for me the OA is a keeper and I just thought it was odd that he didnt know about it. I understand when you are focused on something or a small section of a hobby that you may not know about the big picture.
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Yes, the shooting world is full of these people..........they'll argue with you that a gun doesn't exist WHILE HOLDING the said gun in their hands..........idiots.......yes,because people are running around retro-fitting Blackhawks to cap and ball.......I think I'll buy an M77 and turn it into a muzzleloader lol

I've had people tell me, when I say I have a .327 Magnum Ruger GP100 "You mean .357" ..."No .327" ......"There is no .327 you have to mean .357" " I OWN THE GUN it's a .327!!!!" and they still don't believe you.........same thing with my .357 Redhawk, people will basically call you a liar because they KNOW Redhawks only came in .44 and .41....so it must not exist, because they don't know about it.......or they think you are stupid and must mean Blackhawk, not Redhawk.......

Talking to some people is about as useful as talking to a door knob, sometimes I think even the door knob eventually learns while these people never will.........
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