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Old March 1st, 2015, 07:21 PM   #1
 
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Which black powder revolver?

I've got the itch to get a cap and ball revolver, and I have questions. First, most new ones seem to be made by Uberti and Pietta. The Piettas seem to be much easier to find, and they're also cheaper. Are they good, or is it better to find, and pay more for, a Uberti?

Second, both Uberti and Pietta make Colt and Remington replicas. Is it better to start with a Colt or a Remington? Is one better than the other?



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The Pietta is cheaper than the Uberti because it is built cheaper... lower quality materials; lower quality fit and finish. Best off paying the extra for the Uberti in my opinion. I own a few Ubertis, and also an old IAB made in 1972 (which became Pietta I understand). There is considerable difference in the craftsmanship between the two brands... be sure to closely inspect and compare the two prior to a purchase.

As for the Colt versus Remington: The Remington is reportedly stronger due to the top strap. However, I wouldn't worry too much about the strength of either one shooting BP... simply pick the style that is most appealing to you.
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I'm not really a black powder sort of person but there is one that I've had on my wish list for years....the Ruger Old Army. I would love to have a ROA.
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Uberti all the way, Ive had a bunch of Piettas and the steel is very soft. They just don't hold up.

If you want a cool wheelgun get a big Dragoon by Uberti..talk about a big piece of iron...I had a 3rd Dragoon repro and I regret selling it. The good part about repros is I can just get another one.

I only like open top Colt repros, some of the prettiest firearms ever made IMO. I can't think of a prettier revolver than an 1861 Colt .36 or a Walker in charcoal blue.

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Feinwerbau's history model #2, a copy og Rogers & Spencer. Hefty price tag though.
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Other than a ruger old army I would get an uberti for its quality and I like the remington 1858 style over the colt style.
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Echoing what others have said, my first choice would be a Ruger Old Army, followed by an Uberti (Remington 1858 is my preference). The Pietta would come in a distant third.
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I've had pietta's and uberti's and just picked up a old army. Pietta over the last 10 years has vastly improvered they're quality and as much as most of them get shoot would probably only last you the rest of your life if cleaned and maintained. Uberti's are better fit and finish but i dont think function is any better. If you hold and point a colt 51 navy or 60 army it will take you back to the days of old. Great natural pointers and shooters. Preferred by the folks back than because that is what they were used to seeing. The remington looks more modern to our eye with the back strap but would have been mosts second choice for quite a while until people got used to seeing them. Both colts and remy are great guns but go to maybe a cabelas and hold and feel both. I have both and colts just take you there. There are other colts like the 61 navy 62 police that are very cool but bring a higher price but the police 5 shoot with fluted cyliner is a joy to look at. 58 remy 36 cal cool too. I'd say welcome to a new shooting experience and find someone to go with that shoots them and cleans them. While you can find some great guys on youtube it's nice to have a buddy show you thd ropes the first time. Oh yeah....there will be intrest on your first trip to the range. Just look out for those fowlers and Hawkins they're addicting.
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I think you will find the Remington model much easier to handle. I have reduced my BP revolvers to a Remington .36, and .44 and am very happy. Whatever you get, buy a couple bottles of Windex-Vinegar spray to clean both the barrel, and action occasionally while spending the day shooting.
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I've some Pietta and Uberti cap'n ball 1860/1858 and quality of both is now very close. But there is some differences, at least in some .44, Pietta have fixed sight, Uberti have driftable front sight. Pietta have long twist 1:30", Uberti have 1:16" twist. To fire roundball it's not a concern, I've a Snubnose Pietta very very accurate, but to fire conical heavy balls, 200 gr to 255 gr, Uberti will be more accurate.

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I have had several. For fit and finish and authenticity, go with the Colt Signature Series. For use, Ruger OA, all the way. Overall (price, authenticity, quality) go with Uberti. I have a Uberti Second Dragoon and an 1860, a Colt Walker and an Old Army (I have had Piettas and others). The Ruger is the most fun.
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I'm not really a black powder sort of person but there is one that I've had on my wish list for years....the Ruger Old Army. I would love to have a ROA.
I also "had" lol a ROA on my wish list for a long time and finally got one. Its a stainless steel .45 and now its one of my most favorite revolvers ! I dont have the conversion cylinder yet but thats next. I think you,ll fall in love with the one you,ve been wanting.Just like the other revolvers,its tough as nails and accurate !
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I've got the itch to get a cap and ball revolver, and I have questions. First, most new ones seem to be made by Uberti and Pietta. The Piettas seem to be much easier to find, and they're also cheaper. Are they good, or is it better to find, and pay more for, a Uberti?

Second, both Uberti and Pietta make Colt and Remington replicas. Is it better to start with a Colt or a Remington? Is one better than the other?
I started out with the Pietta Remington 1858 replica and was very happy with it. Before i ordered one i was a little reluctant but it had a nice wood to steel fit and accuracy with the .454 rnd ball was tack driving.I think I paid 199.00 for it. I,d like to get another one in stainless.I think you would be happy with one ! good luck... ron from FL
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The Ruger Old Army is probably the "best" cap and ball revolver ever made, but is in no way historically accurate. It's basically a Blackhawk retrofitted for cap and ball.

Most people want these because they want cool old looking wheelguns from the Civil War and early Old West period. The Colt Signature Series guns are Ubertis fitted and finished by Colt.

I read that Cimarron distributors hold the Uberti revolvers they sell to a higher standard, thus they cost more. They inspect and reject "bad" ones, and so Uberti fits and finishes the Cimarron guns better. Places like Dixie Gun Works just sell whatever comes in from Uberti.

Even Ubertis used to be cheap but now the prices on some of them approach modern centerfire revolver territory, probably since Beretta acquired Uberti several years ago.

I had read that Remington was making batches of 1858's, I read this recently...... in that case they wouldn't be "repros" but a "re-introduction"......but no one really knew if Remington was really making these or just doing what Colt did, and just fitting Uberti made parts. Skyrocketing interest in Cowboy Action Shooting caused a higher demand for cap and ball revolvers, since I believe some CAS matches have a "cap and ball" segment for shooters who want to use them. But they have to be approved repros or originals.
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