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Old September 22nd, 2013, 10:02 AM   #1
 
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Another Remington Thunderbolt .22lr horror story

Well, it's not THAT horrific, but perhaps only because I am lucky...

I own a 10/22 Carbine with all stock action and barrel. I have fired around 800 rounds total out of her, and ALWAYS clean it after every session. I use two bore snakes, one coated w/ Ballistol or Hoppes #9 for a few passes, then i run a dry one for a few.

I recently bought a box of 500 Remington Thunderbolt .22lr, as it is the only locally available .22lr in my area. On the first day using it I went through about 200 rnds no problem. I little dirty, sure, but no problems.

During the next range session, at about round #60 or so, I noticed I could not even hit the Paper at 100 yards. Seriously, not a single hole. So I moved to some potatoes at 40 yards. Still nothing! after triple checking my sights (Williams Peeps) I went to the 25 yard Pistol range. I couldn't hit the paper at 25 yards!!

Went home, took apart the action, looked into the barrel and saw lumpy chunks about 2 inches in from the reciever end. Now, a bore snake will not even drop through, and just for kicks, I stuck my charge handle rod in, and the obstruction is so burly that it stops the rod, and even allows me to push the charging spring all the way down! The rod simply wont pass.

I do not own a cleaning rod, only bore snakes, so I will get one and see what I can do. Dammit.

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Old September 22nd, 2013, 10:08 AM   #2
 
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Wonder if anyone has mentioned this to Remington?
Can you send them this photo?
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Old September 22nd, 2013, 10:13 AM   #3
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I do not like thunderbolts. I have had slugs fall out when loading then in the
magazine, all the slugs have been loose, I thru the ones I had in the range recycle
bin.

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Boresnakes are nice, but they do not replace a good cleaning rod. Be very careful of your crown when cleaning from the muzzle end. If you like the boresnake style there are hard cabled pull type cleaning kits that you can get and add patches to the jag attachment. The added snugness can break that leading free.

For what its worth the old Winchester Wildcats were soft and leaded the heck out of things. I now spend more to get plated or washed ammunition. Once you get that much lead in there you won't be grouping well until you get it out. You can also use a little JB Paste, but don't go crazy because the rifling is shallow.
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Wasn't it Remington that had a recall on .22LR?
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Old September 22nd, 2013, 10:35 AM   #6
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The recall was just for a certain batch no. I called Remington about the
problem I was having, but the ones I had was not that no. MY TUFF LUCK
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I don't know how tough that lead will be to get out, but I think this is one of those rare times where you need to remove the barrel from the receiver so you can start at the breech end.

If it's really thick in there, maybe start with a .17 cal rod and brass brushes and some lead remover and work it til you can get the .22 cal rod down the bore.
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Plug one end of the barrel and pour Hoppe's #9 down the barrel, let it sit for 24 hours or so. Soak a brass or bronze brush in Hoppe's and give it a good scrubbing. Break Free will blast the last of it out, then patches until clean, then a patch soaked in a decent gun oil.

Copper fouling is tougher, but lead fouling isn't that hard.

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I don't know how tough that lead will be to get out, but I think this is one of those rare times where you need to remove the barrel from the receiver so you can start at the breech end.

If it's really thick in there, maybe start with a .17 cal rod and brass brushes and some lead remover and work it til you can get the .22 cal rod down the bore.
You can have the barrel off in ten minutes.
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Thanks guys. Seems pretty bad in there with the chunk/smear very close to the breech end, so I'm going to take off the barrel. I had to go to work, so i didnt spend too much time on it yet, but some serious tugging didn't even budge it.

Oh well I'm sure plenty of other forum posts have plenty if tips on removing it. Argh...
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They are the "Detroit" of ammo.....
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Old September 24th, 2013, 11:03 PM   #12
 
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Update:

Took the barrel off and filled it w/ Hoppes #9 for about 30 hours. Emptied it and inserted a .22 size brass bore brush about 5 inches, and it got stuck...and i mean STUCK. I had to take it into the LGS and have two 300lb guys apply opposing force with all their might to pull the rod out of the barrel!

The LGS owner sprayed something crazy in there and plugged the barrel again and told me to wait a few more hours...

After work I came home and even a bare .22 jag would not go through! ARGH! After a beer and some cussing I finally just repeatedly jammed the empty rod into the bore. Finally, out popped this little gem:




After about 20 solid minutes of brushing, I switched to patches and brushing alternately, then the bore snake then patches. Looks good as new as far as i can tell!

Advise to anyone w/ this problem in the future...Soak first, then take an empty rod (no attachment on the end, just the bare female threads) and "carefully" jam the crap out of your obstruction. Then a bit of patience and a couple extra brass bore brushes (I broke one off at it's attachment) will do the trick.

Remington T.Bolt is garbage! I'm going to try and trade the rest of it in to my LGS for a few bucks off some shotshells!

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Wow. That is a pretty nasty chunk of lead. I have two 50 round boxes of Tbolts. I guess they will make pretty good paper weights.
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Yup... I'm done with Thunderbolt too!
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Wow! That is a serious chunk of lead! I'm glad it came out! Perhaps I'll skip on the Thunderbolts

Have fun shooting your reclaimed barrel!
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