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Old January 11th, 2013, 06:30 AM   #31
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I'd think so too, but it's stunning how buyers never seem to get enough. I'd think they'd run out of money, space to store ammo, or get an ultimatum from their wife that says "bring another box of ammo in this house and the only person you'll be having sex with is yourself." I remember some guy years ago suggesting that in 20 years there would be a whole lot of widows with stockpiles of ammo to sell.

While things have gone totally insane in recent weeks, this shortage has been going on to varying degrees since 2008. I remember in May 2009 going to a Gander Mtn and the shelves that should be holding handgun ammo were totally bare. I mean not even one box of any handgun caliber whatsoever.

What really blows my mind is the lack of .22LR at any price. I get the run on .223 & 7.62x39 which feeds the two most scary guns that top the Brady Bunch hit list, but what's up with .22?

Can anybody explain that? Are survivalists stockpiling .22LR for some post apocalyptic world where .22 will be the survival cartridge of choice? I hear the humble .22 can take large game, so long as you shoot an elk in the ear I guess. No state would allow such, but I guess in a post apocalyptic world there is no state to demand a caliber potent enough for a clean kill.
Exactly. Most people do prefer the .22 LR as their survivalist gun. I deviate from them a little in that my survival gun is a Savage 24 O/U .22 WMR and .410. I get to take two guns in one, while the other poor suckers can only take one! I guess they'll be begging ti trade for my gun, but it will be very costly!



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Old January 11th, 2013, 06:41 AM   #32
 
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The shortages will continue periodically as long as Obama and his buddy Holder remain.

They will pass something very soon, but I think the President and the democrats in both houses will keep coming back again and again with anti-gun legislation.

One piece at a time they will attack specific types of guns, ammo purchasing, licensing, registration, gun importation, and on and on.

This is not going to be a short term fight, they will keep wearing us down.
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Oh, about four years or so...
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I love all the Obama Dem bashing.... totally mindless comments, as if Bush and Republicans respected the Constitution and the law? Ha ha ha ha!! Obama does not control the Ammo market nor is the Government buying up Ammo to dry up supplies.... that is just idiotic. The fact is end of year people let inventory go down, and the panic buying has done this to the market, just like when Obama came into office.... Is the current administration going to use current events to push a political agenda? Sure, they all do that, just like 9/11 gave Bush unprecedented power, which got us into two wars and created a whole new branch of Government, Homeland Security. If you are going to whine about Obama and Dems at least be consistent.

Kids the PUBLIC is DEMANDING change! This is democracy. Deal with it. Obama has done ZERO against gun ownership in 4 years, even expanding gun right (Guns in National parks).

The murder of 20 cute, sweet, smart, innocent 5 year olds, should have some effect on you.... because it really did have an effect on the Nations attitudes.... I AM ALL FOR ELIMINATING 2nd AMENDMENT RIGHTS FOR THE THREE C's: CHILDERN (NOT UNDER ADULT SUPERVISION), CRIMINALS & CRAZIES.... ANYONE DISAGREE?

This is not year 1791, days of the black powder, ball, flintlock muskets... sorry. The need for a citizen militia to defend our shores with AK-15's from the "Crown" is gone. We have the largest military forces in the history of mankind. You and your AR-15 are not going to do squat. Besides the military, Army, Navy, Marines, Air Force and Coast Guard, there is the FBI, CIA, ATF, Boarder Patrol and local Police and SWAT... Lots of hired professional guns out there. Am I for self protection and gun ownership? YES! However lets get real, guns are either a HOBBY or SELF DEFENSE. No one NEEDS an AR-15 for hunting or self defense.

I don't remember civilians having the fire power they have today, compared to the 1970's. Yes 30's gangsters had machine guns and M-1 Garand's but not the average Joe. Yes, JFK was killed with a single shot bolt action (and you conspiracy nuts there was only one gunman.) What the country is grappling with is trying to curb MASS SHOOTINGS. Magazine limits, tighter background checks would help (may be). I am for enforcing existing laws (as most states stipulate) gun owners must assure only authorized individuals have access, i.e., lock up your gun when not in use.

I'm 100% for sane mature individuals owning firearms, safely and responsibly. The question in the public forum now, do civilians need military style guns? I don't mistrust our Government, but they do often suck and disappoint, more about their self interest and legal corruption (campaign contributions); however they are not trying to enslave or massacre us. NO ONE is talking about taking all your guns away; however something has changed with guns in USA...and it has NOTHING to do with Obama or Democrats. Some of the biggest gun control laws were under GOP Presidents.


Fact: Mr. Bill Ruger was for limiting magazine capacity. In 1989 he wrote a letter to every member of congress expressing this opinion, and told NBC New's Tom Brokaw:

"No honest man needs more than 10 rounds in any gun."

"I never meant for simple civilians to have my 20 or 30 round magazines or my folding stock."

"I see nothing wrong with waiting periods."

(I also see better background checks, including finger prints and mental health background checks might help. This of course will take more than 5 minutes and cost more than $10. The issue of privacy and peoples medical (mental) health info being used for a gun purchase is problematic Constitutionally.)

LAST COMMENT: If you leave your gun(s) and ammo so others can use it with out your control or steal it, then you are irresponsible. YOU should be held accountable for ANY crime committed because of this carelessness. The mall shooting in Oregon and Sandy Hook would not have happened if the guns were locked up.

PS I have a carry permit and carry daily....

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Yesterday I went to three Walmarts and Academy and couldn't even find a single box of 30-30. I didn't think they were in high demand. I did score a box of .223 and a box of .45acp though, and there was plenty of .45 Colt that I've been having trouble finding lately.
Regarding the 30-30's, in the fear that assault weapons are banned people will be hopping on the Winchester and Marlin lever actions. Did you see what the Rifleman could do with a lever action? Old school assault weapon.
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Addressing a couple of items.

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YOU should be held accountable for ANY crime committed because of this carelessness.
Nope. Your saying if I leave a baseball bat around, or a kitchen knife on the table and someone uses it in a crime I am responsible? You crazy? Nope. Notta. The person doing the attacking is responsible. Period. A gun is just a tool like any other piece of equipment you have in the house. Take responsibility for your own actions friend.


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CRAZIES.... ANYONE DISAGREE?
Yep I disagree. Who is to say your not crazy or me? Slippery slope. Not guilty until proven guilty. As for childern, they already must be 21 before buying a gun. No problem there. And same with the crimimal. By law he/she can't buy one either (as if he really cares being a criminal by definition ) . Laws are already on the books in all these cases. No need for more.

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No one NEEDS an AR-15 for hunting or self defense.
So what? A lot of guns aren't about need. People buy them because they are fun and want one. Called freedom of choice. No different from my lever action 30-30 or a mini-14, or a bolt-action '06. You are falling in the liberal trap... If they don't like it or see a need for it, then ban it. Wrong. Guns don't kill people. People kill people. This is like saying, I drive a huge red SUV. You don't see a need for it ... so ban it. Oh wait, that is exactly what the liberal wants.... All of us driving with our feet in the radiator with a sewing machine engine up front.... Not reasonable at all. Give a liberal an inch and he'll take a mile. Oh and by the way, all guns have been 'military' style since the invention of firearms .

One more thing. I've said it before. To live free, there are risks. Even big risks and bad things will happen. The price of breathing free is sometimes high. And it is sad... But roll with the punches and move on. Just do your part in protecting yourself and maybe prevent it from happening in the future.... But don't burden the law abiding citizen with more regulation, intimidation, laws, hoops, and restrictions and storm troopers. Things that the criminal element never has to abide by. Look at New York. The brunt is falling on ordinary citizens.... but not the criminal of course. This is so backwards....

As for ammo shortage ... four more years at least if the Democrat/liberal/state media rhetoric and bills keeps up.

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He says that is he will close "loopholes". Obama"s Homeland Security bought up 750K rounds of ammo which will severely limit supply. It is an outrageous amount of ammo for the department. Democrats in the senate stated that they needed to limit large amounts of online ammo buys because of the school shootings. Other politicians, including Pelosi. have advocated limiting reloading components such as brass, primers, and powders. Gary Brown, California Governer, stated that they could control AR-15s by limiting the available primers. He called them "discs". It is evident that nothing is off the table with Obama.
Do a search, The Feds have been buying a lot more than 750K rounds.

I live fairly close to the main Federal Cartridge plant in Anoka, MN and know people who work there. The amount of ammo that is manufactured in a day is staggering. They are working round the clock, mandatory overtime and have been doing so for years.

I'm told, for instance, that the automated machines that make .45 cal rounds crank out more than a million rounds per shift.

750K isn't even a shifts worth of production.
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Do a search, The Feds have been buying a lot more than 750K rounds.

I live fairly close to the main Federal Cartridge plant in Anoka, MN and know people who work there. The amount of ammo that is manufactured in a day is staggering. They are working round the clock, mandatory overtime and have been doing so for years.

I'm told, for instance, that the automated machines that make .45 cal rounds crank out more than a million rounds per shift.

750K isn't even a shifts worth of production.
ONE small agency, Homeland Defense, bought 750K rounds of .223 ammo. That averages out to be about 3K rounds per employee. This includes secretaries, custodians, and pencil pushers. How offen do these guys shot an AR15/ M16?

The problem is this is a small agency compared to others. How many rounds (other than the military) is being bought up by other agencies? My point is that it is easy to control the targeted ammo (.223, .308, 9mm) by stockpiling the ammo and removing it from sale.
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Obama, a constitutional lawyer, is skirting his promise to uphold the constitution. He is streching his executive priviledge rights and is daring anyone to stop him. The latest rumor is that he can not executive priviledge gun control because of the second admendment. He has decided to attack the ammo supply instead. Yes, you can have the gun but you have nothing to shoot. I think, like others, that the ammo shortage will be with us until Obama decides it is not worth it.
Its gun owners own hoarding and panic buying that is causing the ammo shortage. It makes absolutely no sense for some one who doesn't even shoot to buy thousands of rounds of ammo. There are a lot of dealers and gun show sellers who are laughing all the way to the bank right now.
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YES! However lets get real, guns are either a HOBBY or SELF DEFENSE. No one NEEDS an AR-15 for hunting or self defense.

LAST COMMENT: If you leave your gun(s) and ammo so others can use it with out your control or steal it, then you are irresponsible. YOU should be held accountable for ANY crime committed because of this carelessness. The mall shooting in Oregon and Sandy Hook would not have happened if the guns were locked up.
Huh? So, if a tyrannical government comes after me with fully automatic weapons, I should not even have a semi-auto rifle to defend myself and my family?

If criminals invade my home armed with Glocks with 17 round mags, I should only have 10 rounds in my weapon?

Oh, and let's see, if I have a farm or a ranch with a coyote or a feral hog problem, I should try to protect myself with a bolt action rifle when an AR-15 or a Mini-14 would be much more effective?

Your Sandy Hook argument is ridiculous. The shooter is responsible. Period. If those guns had been locked up, he would still have found dead a way to arm himself.
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Just back from the local Walmart

I will always stop by the gun counter and talk with one or both of the sales people who i consider competent associates. What I was able to get from how the supply chain at my local Walmart works is:

1) Walmart contracts with the mfger for a specific round and quantity, as an example I'll use the round I frequently buy, Federal match grade .22lr in the 325 round count box, about $14. This product has been under contract with Walmart for a number of years
2) quantity, price and duration are negotiated
3) other specifics of the contract of delivery etc are negotiated
4) product delivered in accordance with the contract

Currently Ruger 10/22 base models, 5 are on order with my local Walmart, no idea on a delivery date. More ammo incoming to my local Walmart in the next few days, it hits the floor about 7:30am. They did have new stock of CCI mini mag on the shelf, too expensive for a target round. Price on the base 10/22 went up about $35 or so.

The shelf space was reduced by 50% for ammo so I asked why. "It looks really bad to not have a space filled with merchandise. I have been looking for a safe spot to secure my scopes for several years, and now with the ammo shortage, I have a space. When an ammo product comes in that does not have a bar code, I make a new one and put it the appropriate spot on the shelf, the price changed anyway so I have to make a new tag." Isn't it funny how one might see an empty ammo case on the sales floor last week now filled with fishing gear and assume that the ammo is never coming back?

At this point I will remain patient and wait to buy what I have bought in the past knowing it will be more expensive and also evaluate what levels of ammo I want to keep in reserve and stock up.

I'm also getting fed up with a few smug individuals on this forum who feel gloating that they reload or they were a Proffet and saw this coming and those of us who are somehow late to the game are foolish or stupid for not stocking up. I guess they were never new to the sport. I rekindled an interest in firearms this past year. I bought a Glock 19 in 1991. It sat in storage all this time. A year ago I bought a Ruger Single Six and is how I found my way to this forum. Since that time I have bought 5 more good quality firearms and have plans for a few more, then I can concentrate on stockpiling the appropriate quantities of ammo based upon which gets the most trigger time.

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Anyone care to hazard a guess as to how long it will be before ammo is available again?
About 3 months from now it will have eased somewhat. I think it will be spotty for at least 6 months, though.

I am most irritated by the lack of .22 ammo, and I think most other ppl are too. The manufacturers know this and they're gonna do everything in their power to meet demand. Talk about a gold mine ...
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All this talk about rational gun control gives me a headache. Rational by whose standards? You want a tank, and have a safe place to shoot it, knock yourself out.

"The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed". That doesn't mean, just a little bit, by your favorite politician, maybe just for a while, "for the children".
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About 3 months from now it will have eased somewhat. I think it will be spotty for at least 6 months, though.

I am most irritated by the lack of .22 ammo, and I think most other ppl are too. The manufacturers know this and they're gonna do everything in their power to meet demand. Talk about a gold mine ...
I think it will last as long as Nobama, or the liberals now and after Nobama, have any hope of control over us, the people. Depends on how long a majority of American voters remain so stupid.

This would be a good time to have old stock in the ammo companies.
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Depends on how long a majority of American voters remain so stupid.
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