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Old March 15th, 2017, 02:35 PM   #16
 
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In the rifle world, I have a stock (except for bx trigger) 10/22 rifle with about 500 rounds in it. I have a Marlin model 60 (about 2010 vintage), with a KAT trigger. Both rifles have the same scope on them Center Point 4x16 30mm . I shoot a couple of wiley coyote matches a year and bi weekly practice. Almost all is at 50 yards because my range is sort of in a wind pocket and 100 yards is silly when there are variable winds always. Anyway I try to look at new ammo whenever it shows up. Currently, I use mini-mags for all practice in both rifles. for matches I use std vel cci (part number 035) it is consistent and cycles well in both rifles and is easily 1/2 to 3/4 of an inch in group size and this better than everything else I shoot. I recently got my hands on some aquila super extra (copper washed HV 40gr ammo ) and will try it soon. In an article in the American rifleman, they claim in a standard rifle (I think a savage single shot 24" barrel) it was consistent at 1/2 groups and better than their std speed plain lead ammo. My one 22 pistol is a ruger 22/45 target version with 5.5" barrel. It seems to like federal blue box hi speed ammo and federal automatch the best. In terms of reliability. I did use Norma TAC 22 but cant find it anymore here for less than $70 / 500 and that is a little too steep on my retired budget. It was very accurate and like another poster on the thread, I had a couple of FTF per box of 50 but that was ok because it gave me good 1/2" groups at the 15 yards we commonly fire here.



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In the rifle world, I have a stock (except for bx trigger) 10/22 rifle with about 500 rounds in it. I have a Marlin model 60 (about 2010 vintage), with a KAT trigger. Both rifles have the same scope on them Center Point 4x16 30mm . I shoot a couple of wiley coyote matches a year and bi weekly practice. Almost all is at 50 yards because my range is sort of in a wind pocket and 100 yards is silly when there are variable winds always. Anyway I try to look at new ammo whenever it shows up. Currently, I use mini-mags for all practice in both rifles. for matches I use std vel cci (part number 035) it is consistent and cycles well in both rifles and is easily 1/2 to 3/4 of an inch in group size and this better than everything else I shoot. I recently got my hands on some aquila super extra (copper washed HV 40gr ammo ) and will try it soon. In an article in the American rifleman, they claim in a standard rifle (I think a savage single shot 24" barrel) it was consistent at 1/2 groups and better than their std speed plain lead ammo. My one 22 pistol is a ruger 22/45 target version with 5.5" barrel. It seems to like federal blue box hi speed ammo and federal automatch the best. In terms of reliability. I did use Norma TAC 22 but cant find it anymore here for less than $70 / 500 and that is a little too steep on my retired budget. It was very accurate and like another poster on the thread, I had a couple of FTF per box of 50 but that was ok because it gave me good 1/2" groups at the 15 yards we commonly fire here.
I've put a lot of the Aguila SuperExtra through my MkII. Currently my second favorite .22LR (behind the MiniMag 40gr).
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I've put a lot of the Aguila SuperExtra through my MkII. Currently my second favorite .22LR (behind the MiniMag 40gr).


Thanks, that was the info I was looking for



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paulkalman, Seems just about all 22 rifles and handguns are "ammo fussy". One gun may shoot one brand/type of ammo just fine while another identical make and model gun shoots the same ammo poorly. So .... if someone says their rifle shoots brand X the best, don't be surprised if your gun doesn't fare as well with the same ammo.

I wrote an article on 22 LR accuracy and posted it in the Forum Library. It goes into detail why some guns prefer a specific brand/type of ammo and it mostly has to do with bullet damage. Here's a link to a free download in PDF format: http://rugerforum.net/library/106039...-accuracy.html
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First off thanks to Iowegan for the great dissertation on 22 ammo. My first 22 pistol was a Ruger SR22 and I bought various brands of 22lr ammo when I found good deals. Well now I have a fair amount of ammo that will go bang in the pistol but won't open the action enough to feed in a new round. So this goes in lockstep with part of Iowegans dissertation.
To remedy this I bought a 22 revolver to use the "crappy ammo" in.

In either case I have learned from experience to stay away from lead bullets, I only use copper or brass "washed" bullets in any of my 22 firearms.
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hello I"m a new shooter and am trying to prepare for my first appleseed weekend with my new ruger 10/22

as I understand the above comments, the Aguila Interceptor 22 Long Rifle Ammo 40 Grain Plated Lead Round Nose ammo seems to be the least expensive I can find ($71 delivered for 500 rounds) that conforms to the advice above.
I have a lot of Aguila Interceptor. Good stuff, but it's not intended for use in semi auto .22's. It does actually hit the advertised numbers in my Ruger VBZ and Savage BV, and it gets there by using a large volume of dense, slower burning powder. The slower burn properties will be a problem with the cycle rate and time in your 10/22, (and other autos), with the possibility of excessive pressure in the chamber, and extra energy on the bolt. The risk is a blown case or damaged receiver. Aguila will tell you that in writing.

.22LR is becoming available from several sources. Take a look at Midway: https://www.midwayusa.com/product/15...ose-box-of-300
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/29...d-hollow-point
There are several options available for way less than the Interceptor. Your best bet is to order a couple flavors, the two above have been generally quite good in my collection of four .22LR's, rifles and function well in my semi auto handguns.
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