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Old September 12th, 2012, 07:34 PM   #1
 
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Why 20 rounds?

Why does good hp self defense ammo tend to come packaged in 20 round boxes?

Seems like kind of a useless number to me. Glock 19 standard magazines hold 15. Most semi auto 9mm guns tend to hold 15-17 shots.

A box of 20 fills one magazine with 3-5 left over. Two boxes fills two mags with 6-10 extras. Around half a magazine. 50 round boxes of jhp's make a lot more sense. One box is good for 3 mags.

I suppose if you buy a box of hp you could shoot afew practice rounds and then load up a full mag for defense...



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Old September 12th, 2012, 08:04 PM   #2
 
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Probably because a box of fifty would appear to be very, very expensive to purchase compared to range ammo.
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It actually works out quite nicely in places that limit (by law) the capacity of magazines to 10 rounds.
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It actually works out quite nicely in places that limit (by law) the capacity of magazines to 10 rounds.
Yea, but thats the VAST minority of states.
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Yea, but thats the VAST minority of states.
But that minority includes states with gigantic populations, like Kalifornia.

I'd assume the reason for 20 rounds is an issue of price.

Guess you'll have to buy a 9mm Springfield XD with full-size grip that holds 19+1 to use a full box. This is much the same problem as hot dogs sold in packs that don't correspond to the 8-packs of buns.
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Probably because a box of fifty would appear to be very, very expensive to purchase compared to range ammo.
Agreed. Lots of SD boxes of 20 cost around the same as boxes of 50 for FMJ. I think it's to make it seem like they're similar in price.
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I always thought it was the old hot dog to bun equation. They want you to have to buy more boxes.
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I have no factual basis for this. Ammo has come in a 20rd. box as long as I can remember, rifle and pistol. Making it simple to carry in your pocket while hunting.
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I have no factual basis for this. Ammo has come in a 20rd. box as long as I can remember, rifle and pistol. Making it simple to carry in your pocket while hunting.
Now that makes a lot of sense. Years ago, about the only size .22lr packages I ever saw were the little 50 round boxes. They certainly are easy to carry around in a pocket. Not only that, but that's way more than is needed for a day of hunting.
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With the insane price for some self-defense rounds, manufacturers have to use every trick in the book to make that price on the box a little easier to swallow.
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I'm guessing packaging convieniance for the manufacturer.
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With the insane price for some self-defense rounds, manufacturers have to use every trick in the book to make that price on the box a little easier to swallow.
Agree, it's marketing tricks their doing it with some reloading bullets now also giving you 50 instead of 100, to try to fool customers into thinking their not paying more, even with food same price smaller box, noticed with Coke the new case is now 20 cans not 24 at the same price.
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Albert Einstien himself couldn't equate the hot dog to bun ratio equation?? This is a real tough one! One post mentioned the difference in mag capacities and plus the price to look cheaper, I think we've mastered the "string theory" of SD rounds? Good work fellow physicists! Now let's work on the national debt or why we still use pennies?
Take care and get back to the drawing board,
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1 of the most popular brands, Hornady CD, comes in 25 round boxes for the smaller rounds(.380, 9mm, 38 special & .357).
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1 of the most popular brands, Hornady CD, comes in 25 round boxes for the smaller rounds(.380, 9mm, 38 special & .357).
I use Hornady or Remington Golden Sabres in 9mm, 45 ACP and .357. All of these are in 25 round boxes.
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