Spike12

Got these in a box with a bunch of other cases and old ammo...

Attachment 4696

Case:
NO head stamp markings
Case head is convex so rounds will not stand on their own
Primers have 3 heavy crimps (military?)

Bullets: DIA is .260, FMJ

Case Length: 2.0 +/-

COL: 3.0 +/-

** Round on right has had some type of crimping tool used on case mouth

Darkker

Looks like a Swede to me.
6.5X55mm

eddystone

I agree, but there are a lot of 6.5 cartridges, Swede, Jap, Carcano, Mannilcher-Schonauer, case length is determining factor, most just 1mm of difference

429421Cowboy

I was thinking 6.5 Carcano but as eddystone said, there is not a whole heck of alot of difference with some of them.

laidlerj

The bullets look to be cupro-nickel jacketed, rather than gilding metal, if that helps. Also, no head stamp is a "feature" I've seen on ammo from the Balkans and Austro-Hungarian Empire in the period up to and including WW I. Is it that old?

Jim

Spike12

I took 00 steel wool to them prior to the pictures and the nickel(?) bullets didn't look any better just like old nickels won't buff up.

The brass cases are obviously pretty old. They were in a stripper clip.

You can't really see it but the cases have a pretty agressive taper to them like .303 Brit and 30-30 stuff. To me that suggests old.

Another thing, their is some sort of red sealant at the cass mouths. That plus their crimped primers strongly suggests 'military' to me.

While one around is obiously crimped at the case mouth the othet two seem to have the same tool markings but much more faint.

In the same box were some .45ACP rounds with 41 and 43 on their heads and another rifle round that I haven't cleaned up yet but looks like it has a '11' on its head.

CJS1945

Most likely a 6.5x50 Arisaka, the case length and angle of the neck is correct for the Arisaka the 6.5x50 Carcano and 6.5x55 Swiss are longer with a sharper angle at the neck also the Carcano has a larger Dia. bullet.

KJS

I haven't a clue, but looks like somebody was stocking up for a zombie attack a century ago there.

MZ5

Yeah, I bet they're old military stuff.

With this additional information, wouldn't it be neat if what you have is something a WWII GI (probably an officer, if he was wearing a 1911) brought home with him as a remembrance? A couple rounds from his pistol, and a stripper clip from an enemy soldier?

That's just a story, of course, but I'd personally not be surprised to find out that corroded ammo was no newer than WWII, and maybe as old as or older than WWI.

Spike12

I very well educated buddy who's hobby is WWII arms took one look at it and stated it was Arisaka. So I gave them to him as he has one of those rifles as well as a Thompson, BAR, 1919, Reisling (?), etc.

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trigger creep

I'm guessing 6.5 Jap, but any one of the cartridges eddystone mentioned could be it. Definitely a 156 grain, which was what the Japanese used in their 6.5.