S&W .40 Short and Weak .40This is a discussion on S&W .40 Short and Weak .40 within the Ammo Dump forums, part of the Firearm Forum category; Originally Posted by Sal1950
Sorry ExArmy but that's not true. Rimless semi-autos headspace on the case mouth and length is critical. Trying to fire a ...  |
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July 30th, 2012, 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Sal1950 Sorry ExArmy but that's not true. Rimless semi-autos headspace on the case mouth and length is critical. Trying to fire a .40 in a 10mm could be potentially dangerous.
Sal | Sorry Sal but that's not true
My S&W 610 revolver fires both .40S&W and 10mm, both from moon clips.
Jack
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July 30th, 2012, 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Sal1950
Sorry ExArmy but that's not true. Rimless semi-autos headspace on the case mouth and length is critical. Trying to fire a .40 in a 10mm could be potentially dangerous.
Sal
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Originally Posted by jhrosier Sorry Sal but that's not true
My S&W 610 revolver fires both .40S&W and 10mm, both from moon clips.
Jack | I know the S&W 610 uses moon clips, and so did/does the M1917 and the S&W 625/25, but is that true for the convertible cylinder for the Blackhawk .45 Colt/ .45 ACP? Is there any reason they couldn't make a .45 ACP (or 10mm, for that matter) revolver that headspaces on the case mouth? I'm probably overlooking something, since I don't recall ever seeing that.
Jim
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July 30th, 2012, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by laidlerj I know the S&W 610 uses moon clips, and so did/does the M1917 and the S&W 625/25, but is that true for the convertible cylinder for the Blackhawk .45 Colt/ .45 ACP? Is there any reason they couldn't make a .45 ACP (or 10mm, for that matter) revolver that headspaces on the case mouth? I'm probably overlooking something, since I don't recall ever seeing that.
Jim | Jim,
There are many double action revolvers with swing out cylinders that use rimless cartridges in moon clips. This is not practical in single action revolvers as the cylinder would have to be removed for loading with moon clips. Rimless cartridges can be used in single actions by cutting the chamber to headspace one length of cartridge. Ruger has chambered single action cylinders for 30 Carbine, 9mm, 40S&W, 10mm, and 45ACP.
Jack
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July 30th, 2012, 05:30 PM
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You can not find a better platform for a 40 cal than the SR40. I can run the same reloads (Berry's 180gr FP @ 5.4 SR7625) through my SR40 and my buddys XD 40 and another buddys Glock 35 all three are very accurate but the Sr40 had a softer recoil more like a 9mm. I own 9mm's, 40's and 45's. All three are fun to shoot but if I would have to choose between 9, 40 or 45 for defense, I would go with the 40cal.... maybe?
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July 31st, 2012, 01:09 AM
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Originally Posted by bwinters I like the 40 sw. In NJ hollowpoints are problematic legally so I use a 40 or 45 over 9 mm for defense. | I'd like to know more about this. What do cops in NJ have their guns loaded with?
It seems the anti-gun crowd can demonize anything. I vividly recall an "investigative report" last year showing the "gun show loophole" in action (though it was in a parking lot -- so I guess it would be the "anyplace so long as you're not an FFL loophole?  "
One of the gun sellers tossed in a box of hollow point ammo, which the reporter told me was used to "inflict maximum injury."  Damn, that sure sounds frightening. Even more frightening -- police, folks who are supposed to protect & serve me -- are packing ammo designed to inflict maximum damage!
Had it been FMJ ammo then they could have reported on how that's designed to blow holes through a person or walls & all the innocent little kids standing behind. Also designed for maximum ricochet potential, no doubt in a secret NRA-backed plot to bounce off hard surfaces to hit as many innocent little kids & pregnant women as possible, right. |
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July 31st, 2012, 01:17 AM
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Originally Posted by terry_p I believe the 40 short and weak label came from someone that used it and made poor/no hits and therefore didn't stop the BG. | .40 S&W with that name & history very much lends itself to the Short & Weak critics. After all, .40 S&W was created by making a 10mm cartridge shorter & weaker such that FBI agents could handle it.
Perfectly reasonable move, seeing how the FBI tends to deal with white collar criminals. FBI agents are likely to be more skilled in accounting than in combat shooting. But then you're not likely to get in a gun battle taking down Martha Stewart nor Bernie Madoff.
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