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Old April 7th, 2012, 07:20 AM   #1
 
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Federal, Blazer, CCI what is the difference

Between Federal, Blazer and CCI what is the difference besides cost. What to find out about 22 LR. I know all three are made by the same company. Why the big price difference? Is CCI really made with that much better materials? Thanks for the help.




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Old April 7th, 2012, 08:41 AM   #2
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I perfer federal auto match for most 22. If you have one that does not cycle right try CCI it has more umph.
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I prefer federal in 22s except for prom mdse than I use remington.
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Very fortunate that all of my 22's seem to eat and enjoy any brand of ammo. Have used more Federal ammo than others but only because of its availability and pricing.
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Between Federal, Blazer and CCI what is the difference besides cost. What to find out about 22 LR. I know all three are made by the same company. Why the big price difference? Is CCI really made with that much better materials? Thanks for the help.
The Federal plant is within 10-15 miles of where I live. I've known many people who work(ed) there over the years.

Recently (within the past few weeks) a person who currently works there told me that there was an issue with some Federal Champion labeled ammo (not rimfire) that had been built at a CCI facility. The person told me that it is fairly common for each of the plants to build ammo for each other under the other plant's brand name. I got the impression that it happens most often when a plant got a little slack and the other was very busy...

It also appeared that only the practice type rounds were involved, the Premium rounds are built at the "label" factory, ie CCI at CCI, Federal at Federal.

I've bought thousands of the Federal red/blue box rimfire ammo with no problems. I like the plastic 100 round boxes of the CCI and move the bulk Federal to those boxes when they get emptied; it makes it easier to load 10 and 25 round mags.

Also bought thousands of rounds of the centerfire Champion ammo with no issues.

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I shoot a ton of Federal bulk ammo through our .22's, works great, very, very rarely does it ever give a dud after many thousands of rounds each year. Of course we only use one auto .22 which is not that picky, i know some people have trouble with them in auto's but that's just what your gun likes best. CCI makes some top shelf rimfire ammo in my experence and have never had a problem with any of their ammo. I am one cheap &*@@$^&* but i have always felt for certain applications the CCI is well worth the cost. I use Stingers for larger critters like rock chucks, coons, skunks and prairie dogs, Velocitors if i think i'll need to handle a coyote or just want some more punch since they give a bit better pentration than Stingers, then their CB shorts or longs for quiet applications or when low penitration is more important such as in a barn or shop.
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I shoot nothing but FEDERAL in my rimfires.. Excellent ammo IMO Did not like CCI at all.

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CCI Blazers are the best bulk .22 rimfire ammo in my opinion.
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Old April 7th, 2012, 02:15 PM   #9
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CCI Blazers are the best bulk .22 rimfire ammo in my opinion.
I went wild and decided to try a tiny 50 pack of CCI Blazer. It seemed really good from my limited experience. I know a guy who several years ago bought up bricks of it when it went for only $8. He has 25,000 rounds in stock, so his .22 supply weighs more than he does.

I think Federal bulk is just fine and it's what I use all the time, but if I found a sale on CCI Blazer .22 I'd buy a whole lot of it. Seems to be really good. I read a review of it by some gun writer who noted it was very good for being so cheap & that he suspected many pass it up as they assume you can't have quality at that low cost.

As for accuracy, the friend with 25,000 rounds of it can produce endless 5-shot groups that can be covered with a dime at 50 yards from a rifle. Not as good as Wolf Match Grade where all 5 holes touch, but then Blazer doesn't cost $50 for 500 either.

I'd often read on this forum that CCI Mini Mags are what work best in Ruger MK IIIs, as they always have enough power to cycle the bolt. They certainly do work, but no need to pay that much. Federal bulk has just as much power. As a test I even bought a pack of CCI Standard Velocity and it worked just fine in my MK III as well. It just had less of a kick.

I can tell you that Federal bulk also works just fine in an S&W 617. Got that .22 revolver last week & every single round I put through it was without flaw. Damn good for no flaws in the last 1,000+ rounds I've fired. What more can you ask from the cheapest ammo there is?
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When a company buys another company, they generally let the company stay independent and run itself, but with oversight from the main company., which is presently being ATK.
That being said, production of products are outsourced to other companies and made under the same name of the original product.
Some of the brands, may have been made in another companies factory, falling under their quality control, which may be better, or worse.
The thing to do is find out which brands shoots best in your weapon, and then go with the best price.
I haven't had over 5 duds in my 40 years of shooting, from all brands.
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I guess it's all in what you like. Reading some of the post there seems to be a lot of Federal guy's out there. I wont buy them, peroid . it seems like every time I have a dud, its a federal. All I ever buy is CCI ,because it works for me.
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CCI and Speer are ATK's premium lines. Then you have the various lines of American Eagle, Blazer and Federal Premium. I've never had a dud with Blazers and I was lucky to pick up a case for $159 shipped last summer. They're pretty accurate in my 10/22 and 22A. Quality seems to vary with the Fed bulk but I get fewer misfires on average than with Rem and Win. I really like the Velocitors and Stingers too, they give a .22LR almost the punch of a WMR

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I guess it's all in what you like. Reading some of the post there seems to be a lot of Federal guy's out there. I wont buy them, peroid . it seems like every time I have a dud, its a federal. All I ever buy is CCI ,because it works for me.
Big time, I'm done with Feds, Ive tried atleast 5 different boxes in the past 9 months, if it doesnt feed, doesn't cycle, doesn't go off, its a Fed. Wins are about 22 per 555 at walmart and Feds are 20, I still just pay the extra 2 bucks. I recently tried "New and Improved" Rem Golden bullets and while they were dirty, they did really well when it came to functioning the Mark III. I used Rem Goldens for the past 5 years in my 10/22 with not issues besides some duds here and there, but both guns like Feds the least. All I shoot is bulk too.
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