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Old June 17th, 2010, 07:06 AM   #1
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Question Remington UMC yellow box vs. green/white box?

I have done some research on this but can’t come up with a definitive answer so I am asking for some assistance. Yesterday, I went to a local sporting goods store in response to a Father’s Day add and purchased some 9mm 115 gr. FMJ ammunition. They had UMC Remington in the yellow box and Remington UMC in the green/white box on sale for $14.00 for 50 rounds. The yellow box had UMC in larger letters than Remington and the green/white box was the reverse with Remington being the larger letters. I purchased 100 rounds of each.

I asked the difference and got the “deer-in-the-headlights” glassy look but the salesperson took out a sample of each and neither of us could tell the difference. I know that Remington purchased the Union Metallic Cartridge (UMC) corporation a long time ago and that UMC is said to be the first manufacturer of center fire cartridges. I also know I have used both types but never at the same time and that normally, in my area, the yellow box versions are cheaper.

Can anyone tell me what, if any, difference there is between the two versions? I will take both to the range tomorrow with my P95 but I would like to know if anyone knows a difference. Both versions have been used successfully in my P95.

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The UMC yellow box I have seen in my area (Northeast) were all bulk packs of 250. The Remington Green-White is usually 50 to 100 rounds. I have had no problems shooting either in 9mm, or .45ACP. Other than packaging, I cannot tell if there is any difference. Hopefully somebody with some inside knowledge can chime in on this one.
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I used to shoot the Yellow box in my Sigma until the bullets were sinking into the case. I stick with the white 100 packs of winchester.
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same ammo different box. comes from the same machine.
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Tom Gresham just talked about this a couple weeks ago. The caller even pulled out the catalog and compared the 2 and could not find a difference. The called even called Remington and they were closed lip about it. It was determined that if you can get it cheap and it goes bang, buy the cheap stuff and shoot it. I personally never had a problem with either of those in my P89 in the near 20 years of shooting with it.
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I did not find the yellow box 55 grn FMJ to be all that accurate in a 1-10 twist Mini, but never tried the white box.

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Like Phil said. Its the same ammo. Selling it under two different lables just increases sales opportunities without the added cost of manufacturing two types of ammo.
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Thanks for all of the replies and, yes, it is the same ammo. I have tried 100 rounds of each with no differentiation. Since they are both the same price in one local sporting goods store, I will buy either now since the cost is low and it is more than accurate enough for some plinking and some fun.

200 rounds later my P95 wasn’t all that much more dirty than with the other brands I have used, the target proved that the accuracy was within my abilities, the groups were very consistent in that each group was similar when compared to another from the same yardage, not one issue was encountered and, most importantly, my son and I had a great time punching holes in paper.
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Remington White/Green box ammo vs Yellow/green box ammo

I have run into the same problem buying 22-250 ammo. There has to be some difference for that big of a price difference, Green/Yello box 20 rounds for $27.00 vs White/Green box 40 rounds for $21.00.
I did notice that there was at least 1 round in the box with a different color primer, silver instead of brass color like the rest of the rounds witch lead me to think reloads.
If I'm buying reloads I would like to know it as I only trust my own reloads.
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I have run into the same problem buying 22-250 ammo. There has to be some difference for that big of a price difference, Green/Yello box 20 rounds for $27.00 vs White/Green box 40 rounds for $21.00.
I did notice that there was at least 1 round in the box with a different color primer, silver instead of brass color like the rest of the rounds witch lead me to think reloads.
If I'm buying reloads I would like to know it as I only trust my own reloads.
Surely if they were reloads, or "remans" as they prefer to call it, it would have to be printed on the box. But that is an amazing price difference.

I bought a pile of .380 off a fellow recently, Remington gren box, UMC yellow box, WWB, the stuff all shoots fine.
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I have fired umc 44 mag and 45 acp and the only noticeable difference is the umc does not burn as cleanly as Remington green box and has more muzzle flash indicating a cheaper powder with out flash retardant.
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One of my shooting buddies purchased a bulk 250 pack of .40 UMC recently from Walmart. He was shooting it from a XD. He had a ton of issues with it. First off, it barely had enough power to cycle the slide, and kept giving him feed issues. Secondly he had a bunch of duds. Dented primer, no fire. Never had any issues with any other ammo in this gun before or after. After seeing this, I'm done with UMC, plenty of other brands to choose from at around the same price. I've used a lot of UMC in the past and never had any problems, but duds creep me out, I don't even like holding them.
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I've bought 'em both and don't know what the difference is
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I have bought UMC ammo for my SR9 and had one bullet pressed in too far into the casing. I have fired 624 rounds of UMC without issue. Clean shooting ammo. No failures so far with it.
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I bought a box of Yellow UMC bulk .38 Special. The difference is it's literally bulk. It's bullets and 5 trays of 50 stacked together. Now if you're going to the range and want to fire off rounds in bulk, then it's great. I'd rather find a better deal on individual boxes as sometimes I just want to shoot 100 rounds, sometimes 150, or 200.

The ammo fired fine, and seemed to group really well.

Not always a great way to go if you're bringing in your pistol and your revolver as the yellow box doesn't fit my gun carry case. (I wound up wrapping each tray with plastic wrap to keep it together)

Ahh..the lovely transport regulations in Canada for moving your firearms to and from the range..
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