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This is a discussion on LCP Ammo within the Ammo Dump forums, part of the Firearm Forum category; Originally Posted by rammerjammer http://www.luckygunner.com/labs/self...llistic-tests/ Anything using the Hornady XTP bullet should work fine. I use the Fiocchi Extrema which utilizes the XTP bullet. The ...


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Old February 14th, 2017, 07:15 AM   #16
 
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http://www.luckygunner.com/labs/self...llistic-tests/

Anything using the Hornady XTP bullet should work fine. I use the Fiocchi Extrema which utilizes the XTP bullet.
The most affordable of the XTP offerings also. I've had good luck with Fiocchi.



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Old February 14th, 2017, 02:45 PM   #17
 
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Lucky Gunner just did a test on a bunch of ammo for .45, .40, 9mm, and .380. In .380 the Critical Defense did very well. Go to their web site, click on labs.

What I have noticed looking at the Lucky Gunner tests and the tests done by others that is presented on You Tube is that some round's performance are pretty inconsistent. The Critical Defense loads and the Federal HST loads are a good example. Some show the Critical Defense as an under penetrator but the Lucky Gunner and one tester on You Tube show it to be a decent performer. The HST in several test done on You Tube show it to be a big expander and under penetrator yet the Lucky Gunner test shows it to clog with denim, failing to expand and being an over penetrator. The most consistent performer has been the various loadings of the Hornady XTP bullets. I've yet to see a test where they didn't hit the FBI 12" minimum and several were in the 14-15" sweet spot. The Lehigh Extreme Penetrator has looked good the times it has been tested but it has been tested less then the XTP loads have. I currently possess both the American Gunner XTP and Critical Defense rounds with the XTP being in my mags now.

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Coincidentally, this is my carry ammo. Found them by accident at my LGS. Met the owners at a gun show in Myrtle Beach.

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Lucky Gunner just did a test on a bunch of ammo for .45, .40, 9mm, and .380. In .380 the Critical Defense did very well. Go to their web site, click on labs.
Interesting read. Thanks. I was surprised by the amount of variability in all calibers.
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Thats to bad . I used to live in N.Y. Glad I moved. These days , you have to buy online to get what you are looking for and for a good price. Those states that do not allow internet purchases of ammo are really putting its citizens at a disadvantage.
Boy, tell me about it. I did rimfire benchrest for the past 12 years and always bought my Eley Match ammo from on-line sources after lot testing them. Since I can no longer legally get ammo shipped to me, I can't effectively test the various ammo lots (and there are big differences in performance from one lot to another). No local gun stores carry any significant quantities of Eley ammo. I can no longer effectively compete with other shooters in other States (and I won a National Championship in 2015). I have changed my shooting focus to Skeet shooting and recreational pistol shooting, because I can get that ammo locally. It really stinks.
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Just an FYI, I had heard that the Hornady Critical Defense load may have it's nose deformed when shooting them in a LCP. I had some CD loads and checked to see if they deformed in my LCP II when it is chambered and - - - It DOES. So beware and check for yourself if you carry the Hornady Critical Defense round. It appears to have a thin jacket. I double checked my Hornady American Gunner XTP rounds and they suffered no damage from chambering.
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I found a box of original 90 grain hydrashoks.they did well in testing.
the newer HST's not so well.
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In summer when bad guys aren't likely to be wearing heavy coats, I keep my "Noisy Cricket" loaded with Federal 90 gr. Hydra Shok SD ammo.
In winter, coat season, I load up with flat nose jacketed solid rounds for penetration.
I read this formula somewhere and it made sense to me.
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I carry Lehigh Xtreme Penetrator. Functions fine in both of my LCPs.

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Good to hear. I just ordered a box of the 65gr and a box of the bullets for future reloading for use in my LC380. The 65 gr specs at 14" penetration and a 2.5" wound cavity. Sidenote, the sales clerk who sold me the LC380 suggested using FMJ in the winter months. I asked why and he pulled up his shirt, showed me a scar where someone had fired a JHP at him while he was wearing a winter coat. Broke the skin but that was it. I think the Lehigh rounds will cover things year round.
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Good to hear. I just ordered a box of the 65gr and a box of the bullets for future reloading for use in my LC380. The 65 gr specs at 14" penetration and a 2.5" wound cavity. Sidenote, the sales clerk who sold me the LC380 suggested using FMJ in the winter months. I asked why and he pulled up his shirt, showed me a scar where someone had fired a JHP at him while he was wearing a winter coat. Broke the skin but that was it. I think the Lehigh rounds will cover things year round.


I know it doesn't mean anything but the 65 grain Xtreme Defense tears nasty holes in paper.

Below: small holes are the Xtreme Penetrator, bigger holes are the Xtreme Defense.




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I know, I know, I'm sure this has been beat like a dead horse, but I am looking for some info and advice on the best SD ammo. I did a search and read the threads, but I'm really wanting some info on the Lehigh/Underwood loads, and theSpeer Gold Dot PERSONAL PROTECTION 90 Bullet Weight GDHP. I currently use the Golden Sabre, but I'm feeling there are better loads to carry for the 380 out there. I would like to see what gets the most approval rating out there. Thanks for your time.

Speer gold dots are good, but can be hard to find, I have fallen upon anything with an xtp bullet (per shootingthebull410) thorough study. for the 380, Hornady american gunner is usually available everywhere and can be founfd for under $15 many times a year.
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