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Old December 7th, 2016, 07:48 AM   #1
 
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.327 Federal American Eagle 85 grain vs 100 grain?

I like the idea of 6-shots with my new LCR, but find the 100 AE ammo to
be very hot.

Is the 85 grain American Eagle stuff that's 100 fps slower (per the Federal
website) any tamer.

The 100 grain AE ammo was shot with the Diamond Pro rubber grips.

My Speer 100 grain stuff with the Hogue TAMER grips.

I did get more recoil with the 100 gr. AE and also a lot more blast
from the muzzle and even some to the clylinder area

Also some sticky extraction on my second cylinder.

I'm wondering if I should have waited to buy the 9mm LCR?



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I haven't tried the AE 85s, but you're right about the AE100s. Those are the nastiest factory 327 loads I've found, yet. Just as bad, for me, in a light gun like that as a 357.

The good news is that there are some much nicer shooting SD loads for the 327 than the AEs. The Federal Premium Low Recoil 85 grain Hydra Shoes make a very nice carry load. Also, like you, prefer the Speer Gold Dot 100 grain SD loads to the AE. If those are still too much, there are also some very easy shooting 32 H&R loads you might want to look at. That;'s the beauty of the 327. You'll have a lot more options for ammo you can shoot than with the 9mm.

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I have shot both the 100 grain and 85 grain by AE out of my single seven and IMHO the 85 is way better for target shooting as far as recoil goes.

Problem I have is finding it at a good price.
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I like the idea of 6-shots with my new LCR, but find the 100 AE ammo to
be very hot.

Is the 85 grain American Eagle stuff that's 100 fps slower (per the Federal
website) any tamer.

The 100 grain AE ammo was shot with the Diamond Pro rubber grips.

My Speer 100 grain stuff with the Hogue TAMER grips.

I did get more recoil with the 100 gr. AE and also a lot more blast
from the muzzle and even some to the clylinder area

Also some sticky extraction on my second cylinder.

I'm wondering if I should have waited to buy the 9mm LCR?
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I haven't tried the AE 85s, but you're right about the AE100s. Those are the nastiest factory 327 loads I've found, yet. Just as bad, for me, in a light gun like that as a 357.

The good news is that there are some much nicer shooting SD loads for the 327 than the AEs. The Federal Premium Low Recoil 85 grain Hydra Shoes make a very nice carry load. Also, like you, prefer the Speer Gold Dot 100 grain SD loads to the AE. If those are still too much, there are also some very easy shooting 32 H&R loads you might want to look at. That;'s the beauty of the 327. You'll have a lot more options for ammo you can shoot than with the 9mm.
My EDC is the LCR 327 and I do carry it with the 32 h&r magnum rounds in it. I love shooting both my 327's with the h&r mags ...
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The .32 H&R Magnum around here is lead and costs $20 per 20.

Very easy on recoil, but smokey and spendy.

100 grain Gold Dots are expensive to shoot as well.

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Ive been using the AE 85 and 100 grain since 2007. Thats the ONLY 327 ammo thats been available for me.

The AE 100's are HOT HOT HOT. I use them for hunting in my Blackhawk, which for that, they are awesome. Their long range accuracy is pretty incredible.

The AE 85's are much better even in an SP101. They are WAY tamer and have alot less recoil. Their accuracy seems to start to wonder around about 75 yards, which shouldnt bother your needs any.

I would recommend gathering some brass up, and have an experienced reloader fix you up with some 100 grain bullet loads for SD that are tamed down.

There are several folks on here that reload this cartridge and are very knowledgeable about the reloading formulas they have come up with.

I hope they chime in.

Good luck.
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Ive been using the AE 85 and 100 grain since 2007. Thats the ONLY 327 ammo thats been available for me.

The AE 100's are HOT HOT HOT. I use them for hunting in my Blackhawk, which for that, they are awesome. Their long range accuracy is pretty incredible.

The AE 85's are much better even in an SP101. They are WAY tamer and have alot less recoil. Their accuracy seems to start to wonder around about 75 yards, which shouldnt bother your needs any.

I would recommend gathering some brass up, and have an experienced reloader fix you up with some 100 grain bullet loads for SD that are tamed down.

There are several folks on here that reload this cartridge and are very knowledgeable about the reloading formulas they have come up with.

I hope they chime in.

Good luck.

I have lots of brass and have started to gather load info just haven't gotten around to buying the die set.
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I have also shot the AE 100 grain jsp, in my Ruger SP101 3 inch barreled .327 FM......it was like shooting heavy .357 magnums in a SP101 revolver !!! Whoa so yes tame your loading down I suggest to a Federal .327 FM 85 grain jhp defensive load for your LCR .327 or the other route that really might be the best is a good .32 H&R loading in Hornady Critical Defense 85 grain or a Buffalo Bore loading good luck!!! The best & cheapest route to go eventually depending on your situation is to reload for the .327FM. I happened to reload for .357/38 Special & various rifle calibers so I have a reloading setup. By building up my own reloads I can now shoot a .32 caliber revolver fairly cheap. Plus I now have some tamed down .327FM loads that I like. I hope this might help good luck!!!

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I no longer reload, and have no plans to.

My LCR might be going for a GP100 or LCR in 9mm.

Pity, though as I like the 6-shot cyclinder, just not a fan
of the recoil or being burned by blast with the 100 grain
American Eagle.
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If you do not want the harsh recoil for heavens sake try some .32 H&R magnum 85 grain jhps thru your LCR! You will see a totally different shooting revolver. You do not need to be stuck with the American Eagle 100 grain loads there are other options out there! Save yourself some money. I would much rather have 6 shots of a effective .32 caliber loading vs 5 9mm and have to mess with moon clips!!! I have both LCRX .38 Special and a GP100 as well for conceal carry the LCR is much lighter weapon. The only issue is for you to take the time to try different ammo!
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I can kinda see the OP 's point.

After shooting AE 100's in a Sp101 in 4 inch, its a two hander with lots of flame and you can feel the back blast on your face.

I had bought the SP101 for an versatile EDC to it could either be used for SD or hunting and serve a dual role. But thats not a working combination IMO. And any use at night would flash blind you bad. So the new SP101 i bought last spring is now a safe queen.

I cannot even imagine shooting the 327 AE loads in an LCR, and wouldnt want too.
I would honestly worry about blowing the LCR apart with that kind of chamber pressures. Im sure Ruger made it safe, but that thought would be in my mind.

For an SD & EDC revolver application, an LCR in a 9mm makes a whole bunch more sense IMO.

Cheap ammo, plenty of ammo types/choices, and, with the same chamber pressures as a 357 mag, plenty of SD punch , but still very easy and manageable to shoot. . And its point and pull, so easy to use all the way around.
My wife really likes her LCR. With the addition of a HiViz green fiber optic front sight, its a very nice revolver for an EDC.
I like & carry a CZ PCR for an EDC , but if I had to go to a revolver for SD, it would most likely be an LCR 9mm.
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I also agree to a point but any center fire caliber in a LCR is going to have a quite the sharp recoil especially 9mm rounds!!! I have the LCRX .38 Special +p I do not shoot the +p loads in mine I shoot Hornady Critical Defense Lite loads .38 Special 90 grain jhp FTX bullet. My hands are arthritic and I do not like a stout load to shoot! This Hornady load is effective but doesn't beat your hands up. You cannot tell me the 9mm in a LCR will be pleasant unless the right load is found. The LCR .327 is the only LCR center fire revolver that's 6 rounds. There are very mild & pleasant loads in .32 H&R, .32 smith & Wesson etc and even more. I am not trying to argue this out but just to try & point out to the OP not to give upon his .327 LCR. Besides the LCR revolver in reality isn't a gun that you go out and shoot a lot besides defense ammo isn't cheap in any caliber. 9mm ammo in general is cheaper to shoot until you start using the defensive stuff. My only other thought was to suggest a .22 Magnum LCR if the OP wants to spend some money. My reasoning was to suggest to the OP is try other ammo at first. I had to reload for my .327 FM in order to find ammo and have some enjoyment to reload nuff said!!!
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My wife is recoil sensitive and doesn't have much upper body strength. She has had a Taurus Model 85 .38 Special for home and auto defense for 20 yrs but I never could get her to practice with it due to the recoil.
We recently decided to start practicing EDC and got our CWPs. My wife finally realized the benefit of practicing with your carry firearm. We got her a LCR .327 due to the out of the box trigger, 6 shot capacity and wide selection of low recoil ammo for practice(32 acp/ 32sw and 32sw long) and what I consider decent self defense ammo (32 H&R and .327).
She has never shot a .327 round through it and never will. She carries it loaded with Critical Defense 32 H&R Mag 80 gr FTX. Picked up online $20 for 25 with free shipping. I wouldn't want her shooting at me. She can put them in a 6 in circle at 10 yds.
I've ran some Federal Low Recoil 327 Fed Mag 85 gr Hydra-Shok which I think is recommended for the LCR through it. For me it was snappy but manageable. I really didn't feel the recoil was much different than my LC9s

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I always try to find the 100 gr. loads when I buy. I shoot them in a Taurus 327, an SP-101 and a Single 7. But I just shoot them out so I can load 115 gr. bullets in the cases. I always go for a heavier bullet; buying and hand loading.
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I love shooting my 327 (Singble Seven) but regardless if you shoot the 100 or 85 grain bullets (factory loads) its still roughly 50 cents a round so reloading is by far the cheapest.
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